Softube CL-1B mk1 vs mk2

[TS-12]

What are the differences between Mk1 and Mk2 ? Which one is closer to hardware ?

[jtsterays]

Mk2 pumps like a stock compressor, also no THD at all. The only thing it has thats close to the hardware is the GUI.

[Mercado_Negro]

What are the differences between Mk1 and Mk2 ? Which one is closer to hardware ?

The MKI is softer and more gentle while the MKII is more aggressive. The MKII plug-in now has a switch where you can choose the MKI or MKII.

Both versions are close to the hardware but from different revisions.

[ToMegaTherion]

Mk2 pumps like a stock compressor, also no THD at all. The only thing it has thats close to the hardware is the GUI.

You mean the mk1. Mk2 has component modeling and you can combine the release envelopes of the auto and manual into a pretty smooth compressor.

[jtsterays]

Mk2 pumps like a stock compressor, also no THD at all. The only thing it has thats close to the hardware is the GUI.

You mean the mk1. Mk2 has component modeling and you can combine the release envelopes of the auto and manual into a pretty smooth compressor.

It was the MK2, i remember after 3db of GR it starts to pump like crazy, even with SC HPF, the MK1 had THD but the Mk2 didnt for some reason. I never tried the hardware, but for a compressor famous for its smooth and transparent compression, i doubt this thing was accurate.

[TS-12]

The Softube CL-1B plugin has both Mk1 and Mk2 versions. Which one is more accurate to the hardware ?

[rasmusklump]

Mercado_Negro answered this very question already. Right here in this thread.

[ToMegaTherion]

Mk2 pumps like a stock compressor, also no THD at all. The only thing it has thats close to the hardware is the GUI.

You mean the mk1. Mk2 has component modeling and you can combine the release envelopes of the auto and manual into a pretty smooth compressor.

It was the MK2, i remember after 3db of GR it starts to pump like crazy, even with SC HPF, the MK1 had THD but the Mk2 didnt for some reason. I never tried the hardware, but for a compressor famous for its smooth and transparent compression, i doubt this thing was accurate.

You obviously don’t know how to use the compressor and would hang yourself with the hardware, any hardware compressor with a fast attack or initially fast attack, or any software compressor with a functional fast attack and program dependent release. The C1b is a clean compressor and fast compressor. It is smooth because it has a fast attack (or initially fast attack) that does not permit much overshoot with program dependent release (and a secondary much slower envelope) to level the audio so you do not need to serial compression that will modulate the already modulated signal, distorting the distortion.

The c1b uses a fast acting optical element (1 ms attack and 50 ms release) far faster than the LA2A and its ersatz that will hold down your signal and often require lots of subsequent automation or fader riding, ie further manual volume modulation. You can also superimpose an envelop on top of this with the solid state side chain or combine them, which is where the compressor really excels. Then you always have a fast attack of about 1ms, fast initial release of 50ms, the attack control becomes where the release on the knob takes over like on an ssl bus on auto, and an adjustable secondary release. You have to set it to fit your signal. You then have a very program dependent compressor that is capable of being the sole dynamics processor on a vocal if you set it right. Unlike an LA2A or an 1176.

If you learn how to set this by ear, you can use many other smooth program dependent compressors like the Weiss DS1, Kotelnikov, Crane Song STC-8, GML and MDWDRC, along with auto release compressors like the SSL bus comp, Aphex, Daking, Elysia, Waves Renaissance Compressor and others.

[ToMegaTherion]

Edit: double post

[careyletendre]

Mk2 pumps like a stock compressor, also no THD at all. The only thing it has thats close to the hardware is the GUI.

You mean the mk1. Mk2 has component modeling and you can combine the release envelopes of the auto and manual into a pretty smooth compressor.

It was the MK2, i remember after 3db of GR it starts to pump like crazy, even with SC HPF, the MK1 had THD but the Mk2 didnt for some reason. I never tried the hardware, but for a compressor famous for its smooth and transparent compression, i doubt this thing was accurate.

You obviously don’t know how to use the compressor, ...

Is that really necessary?

[jtsterays]

ok