PreSonus Studio One 7 apparently imminent

[nusound mind]

How is cpu load on 7 compared to 6?

[kev2525]

Has anyone seen any updates on how the Bitwig & S1 daw Project integration works now that we have a new version of both programs? Daw project is interesting to me since I find Bitwig better for the creation process, while S1 is better for mixdowns and managing large track counts. Having seamless integration is a really great addition. I am probably in the minority though.


https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/a ... AW-Project

[adash123]

Has anyone seen any updates on how the Bitwig & S1 daw Project integration works now that we have a new version of both programs? Daw project is interesting to me since I find Bitwig better for the creation process, while S1 is better for mixdowns and managing large track counts. Having seamless integration is a really great addition. I am probably in the minority though.


https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/a ... AW-Project

I am very interested in this. I create in Bitwig (recently moved over from Ableton Live) but then do a lot of midi editing & arranging in Studio One so this integration is hopefully going to make life a lot easier for my workflow.

[BONES]

Why? How can that be easier than just putting up with one application or the other for the whiole process?

[kev2525]

Why? How can that be easier than just putting up with one application or the other for the whiole process?

You use the strengths of both to produce. Bitwig blows S1 out of the water when it comes to modulation and creation of music imo. The modulation system is so intuitive and beautifully thought out. S1 is much better for mixing with better tools to mix and master. It even has a built in mastering toolkit.

[SLiC]

Why? How can that be easier than just putting up with one application or the other for the whiole process?

You use the strengths of both to produce. Bitwig blows S1 out of the water when it comes to modulation and creation of music imo. The modulation system is so intuitive and beautifully thought out. S1 is much better for mixing with better tools to mix and master. It even has a built in mastering toolkit.

I have Bigwig and agree it has great modulation, but then so do most VSTs (and with things like Reactor and many more you have the Grid as a plug in)...unless you are doing modular type experimental stuff most DAWS + VSTS can achieve just about anything.

[dellboy]

I bought Bitwig Studio recently - mainly to get the session view which Studio One lacked. To my surprise the best bit I like about Bitwig is the quality and immediacy of applying FX to anything. I have little need for modulation,and do not even know how to access it. The Grid has proved a bit of a let down. But the GUI and other stuff is great. Not sure if I need the Studio One 7 upgrade now.

[kev2525]

Why? How can that be easier than just putting up with one application or the other for the whiole process?

You use the strengths of both to produce. Bitwig blows S1 out of the water when it comes to modulation and creation of music imo. The modulation system is so intuitive and beautifully thought out. S1 is much better for mixing with better tools to mix and master. It even has a built in mastering toolkit.

I have Bigwig and agree it has great modulation, but then so do most VSTs (and with things like Reactor and many more you have the Grid as a plug in)...unless you are doing modular type experimental stuff most DAWS + VSTS can achieve just about anything.

I find Bitwig modulators just so easy to use. And while VSTs do offer a deep level of tweakability I find that having it natively in bitwig makes it so much quicker. And the mods can be added to any VST which is its strength. My use case mostly is adding various LFO's to synths and drum sounds to alter things like attack, decay, filter etc. to make sounds have more of a human feel. Sure, its possible within VSTs, but the mods in BW are faster and more efficient

[Trancit]

nevermind...

[xbitz]

Has anyone seen any updates on how the Bitwig & S1 daw Project integration works now that we have a new version of both programs? Daw project is interesting to me since I find Bitwig better for the creation process, while S1 is better for mixdowns and managing large track counts. Having seamless integration is a really great addition. I am probably in the minority though.


https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/a ... AW-Project

I am very interested in this. I create in Bitwig (recently moved over from Ableton Live) but then do a lot of midi editing & arranging in Studio One so this integration is hopefully going to make life a lot easier for my workflow.

Now that both DAWs have a clip launcher, isn't the common workflow more convenient with Ableton Link's start-stop functionality compared to dropping not-so-fully-compatible projects back and forth? I noticed that moving MIDI from Studio One to Bitwig requires an extra step, as the source MIDI event has to be dropped into Studio One's browser first.

Logic also knows it so bascially would be same as

(just tried works as it should (used 4 DAWs ) )

[apoclypse]

Has anyone seen any updates on how the Bitwig & S1 daw Project integration works now that we have a new version of both programs? Daw project is interesting to me since I find Bitwig better for the creation process, while S1 is better for mixdowns and managing large track counts. Having seamless integration is a really great addition. I am probably in the minority though.


https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/a ... AW-Project

I am very interested in this. I create in Bitwig (recently moved over from Ableton Live) but then do a lot of midi editing & arranging in Studio One so this integration is hopefully going to make life a lot easier for my workflow.

Now that both DAWs have a clip launcher, isn't the common workflow more convenient with Ableton Link's start-stop functionality compared to dropping not-so-fully-compatible projects back and forth? I noticed that moving MIDI from Studio One to Bitwig requires an extra step, as the source MIDI event has to be dropped into Studio One's browser first.

Logic also knows it so bascially would be same as

(just tried works as it should (used 4 DAWs ) )

I think the workflow is that you do the creative stuff in Bitwig and then do the mixing ,vocal and audio tracking S1 which has better tools for that kind of stuff. Link is not going to help with that.

Personally I don’t like the back and forth and tend to stick to one DAW if I can. However recently used DAWproject to transfer one of my S1 projects to Bitwig as a test and it was very nice. I would definitely appreciate it if all DAWs supported it.

[summer2000]

I can certainly see the benefits of taking full advantage of DAWproject and/or Ableton link depending on the use case.

[jamcat]

Why? How can that be easier than just putting up with one application or the other for the whiole process?

You use the strengths of both to produce. Bitwig blows S1 out of the water when it comes to modulation and creation of music imo. The modulation system is so intuitive and beautifully thought out. S1 is much better for mixing with better tools to mix and master. It even has a built in mastering toolkit.

Built-in MIDI modulation is the one and only selling point I ever see from absolutely every Bitwig user. But overuse of modulation is a crutch and a lazy substitute for actual songwriting. I would not say it makes Bitwig better for creating music.

[apoclypse]

Why? How can that be easier than just putting up with one application or the other for the whiole process?

You use the strengths of both to produce. Bitwig blows S1 out of the water when it comes to modulation and creation of music imo. The modulation system is so intuitive and beautifully thought out. S1 is much better for mixing with better tools to mix and master. It even has a built in mastering toolkit.

Built-in MIDI modulation is the one and only selling point I ever see from absolutely every Bitwig user. But overuse of modulation is a crutch and a lazy substitute for actual songwriting. I would not say it makes Bitwig better for creating music.

Well. That's just like, your opinion, man! (The Dude).

Not every piece of technology is a crutch. The modulators in Bitwig are not just midi modulation, they do a lot more than that. Couple that with a more robust implementation of Live's racks and you have something pretty unique imo that S1 just can't do or is very tedious to do. Skill level isn't even a factor, it's literally a limitation of the software and design choices made by the developers.

The same goes the other way too. There are things that S1 can do that are a PITA to do in Bitwig. Like as limited as automation is in S1, it's has still more features than Bitwig's in certain aspect.

[fedexnman]

S1 7 looks pretty cool so far from the YouTube stuff I seen . I may buy it around Black Friday if they do a deal .