Snapback: The Instant Drum Layering Effect – v1.1 UPDATE

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thecontrolcentre wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:22 pm @ Dirtgrain ... I presumed you would need to download the samples one time only when first launching the plugin, and they will then be stored on your computer. Would be weird to expect license owners to download them every time they load up the vst.
Indeed. You need to be online once for downloading the samples, then never again.

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Hey, Jakob (Cableguys)!
Congratulations!
First of all, great tool.
It seems people expect a magic tool that makes everything perfect for them...
...go figure...
And thank you for your enormous patience getting so many negative reactions here...
...this is a great and really cool plugin.
Those bitter guys make me remember those people that believe they will look like "jacked" just because they know where the GYM is...

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marceloanexa wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:43 pm Hey, Jakob (Cableguys)!
Congratulations!
First of all, great tool.
It seems people expect a magic tool that makes everything perfect for them...
...go figure...
And thank you for your enormous patience getting so many negative reactions here...
...this is a great and really cool plugin.
Those bitter guys make me remember those people that believe they will look like "jacked" just because they know where the GYM is...
Cannot be repeated often enough...
It´s hard to come up with new ideas nowadays and it´s still astonishing (in a negative sense) about what minor nonsense people are still complaining.
Keep up the fantastic work and I hope this sells well! :tu:

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@Jakob: Is there any chance, that it will get integrated into Shaperbox in the future?

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SamDi wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:19 am @Jakob: Is there any chance, that it will get integrated into Shaperbox in the future?
We actually considered to do Snapback as a Shaper at first, but then we found that doing a separate plugin allowed for a more streamlined workflow, designed for a specific type of drum enhancement. S we think it fully deserves being in its own streamlined plugin made just for this job.

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@Jakob A button to non-destructively reverse samples in the Snapback layer would be useful! :oops:

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I'm going to snatch this one for sure.


@Jakob, Any thoughts on making the threshold a two-stage/bi-directional control (assuming it's not already, didn't see it in the video)? So rather than one control that just excludes whatever's below the threadshold, a second one so that you can create a threshold range to pick up a hit within a loop that may be (for example) quieter than a kick/snare, but louder than a soft hat?

Also maybe a percent-random function on the trigger?

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A great plugin by a great developer drops along with various generous upgrade plans (I'll get both ReverbShaper + Snapback for only €29!)

Yet some still complain, insane really… :lol:

It will be a blast layering Korg Wavedrum and Nord Drum 3P sessions with Snapback! :tu:

(Now please make and add an ”Intelligent Harmonizer” for ShaperBox….) :wink:
Fusion

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Dirtgrain wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:41 pm
e@rs wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:47 pm Warning for users with offline DAWs:
Internet connection required for downloading Snapback's samples.

Yay, more encrypted samples from Cableguys! I'll pass.
What does this mean? You don't download the samples for Snapback and store them on your drive? Or the same sample, whenever you use it, has to be downloaded each time?
Already answered by others.

But... unless something changed since ReverbShaper's release, you can't just copy/move the samples to another machine, you have to repeat the download on each machine you want to install to, because they're encrypted. Yet I'd like to be proven wrong as I totally hate it. So, did anything change in the meantime, Cableguys?

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A very good plugin. Works really well, and easy to get the phase right. For Bitwig users - this is great as a send in a group (local) fx. But I’ll likely sample the output to elminate latency and be able to flip the sample more freely.

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Great little tool this. I added it to a basic sawtooth wave and got some weird flam effects when playing polyphonically. But then added it a simple loop and had it triggering a kinda shaker pattern on top of the hats and snare. Nice stuff. Can we drag our own transients in? Not that I necessarily want this but would be cool to know.

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nevermind...

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Jakob / Cableguys wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:22 pm
Morty-C-137 wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:03 pm
Lee / Cableguys wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:22 pm Cableguys Bundle: $149 for Black Friday. Contains Snapback, ShaperBox + more worth $638.
How much for the cableguys bundle if you already own Shaperbox 3?
The Cableguys Bundle upgrades are also on Black Friday sale. If you own ShaperBox 3, it's €69 / $69 and adds Snapback, Curve 2, FilterShaper XL, HalfTime and MidiShaper.

Log in to https://www.cableguys.com/login and scroll to the bottom to see the Cableguys Bundle upgrade.
Just curious, if you own a ShaperBox 3 license that became NFR when it was transferred to you, and you upgrade to the Cableguys Bundle from that, does the bundle become NFR?
Until forever fades away.

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great kit...great price...people have been doing this in drumagog for 20 yrs...and drumagog comes with a drum synth you can program for the replacement, a convolution processor to further shape the sound, and allows multisamples with 3 algos to choose which sample from the multi is triggered...you can also do this with uvi drum replacer, melda drum replacer, and devious machines texture...problem is none of these pitchtrack to allow tonal percussion and instrument sound design...the alternative workflow to copy or send the midi to another track and use your stock daw sampler, and then adjust sample delay or midi noteon delay is not that cumbersome for vsti...much more so though setting up sidechain envelope followers or gates to event triggers for the audio loop use case...at least for the first time until you have a template ...in that case these plug shine in efficiency
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke

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Mimieux wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:03 pm @Jakob A button to non-destructively reverse samples in the Snapback layer would be useful! :oops:
Yeah, I immediately looked for this in the screenshot. Would immediately make a much larger part of one's sample library useful for this.

Output level control is important to me, I do level-matched A/B of nearly every fx plugin I insert and often A/B between alternative plugins. I suppose there are workarounds with plugin chain containers...

Apart from that this looks like a really thoughtful product with a nice workflow. Looking forward to trying it out!

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