JUNO-6 done, which Roland Synth should I model next? Jupiter-8?

[beely]

On the internet, unless you were born in 1988, it usually means one thing if you use it in a handle or user name.

Maybe folks weren't aware of this. It is meant to signal to folks who are aware.

Context. For example, it's use in some statistics or maths problems, or as part of a model name, clearly isn't trying to convey some secret Nazi message.

Maybe if you hang out in dodgy places, or discuss politics etc, it "usually" means that thing, but in the places I hang out, I'm pretty sure it "rarely" means that thing. It "usually" means a keyboard that has *way* too many notes for a one-finger synth player to use effectively...!

I don't think it's a problem given the clear context, but perhaps my "Nazdar" is not sufficiently developed to notice a problem.

[TechHaus]

Even on KVR?

I have no idea.

Twitter yes. Forums I won't name that have been around as long as KVR. Also yes. Youtube yes. IRC chats yes.

I said "oh ok" above to the decade / voices thing (I don't ever assume limited voices in a digital synth in my head, so it did not occur to me at all).

But the chinese numbers thing is also a major one that HH guys throw out there.

[TechHaus]

On the internet, unless you were born in 1988, it usually means one thing if you use it in a handle or user name.

Maybe folks weren't aware of this. It is meant to signal to folks who are aware.

Context. For example, it's use in some statistics or maths problems, or as part of a model name, clearly isn't trying to convey some secret Nazi message.

Maybe if you hang out in dodgy places, or discuss politics etc, it "usually" means that thing, but in the places I hang out, I'm pretty sure it "rarely" means that thing. It "usually" means a keyboard that has *way* too many notes for a one-finger synth player to use effectively...!

I don't think it's a problem given the clear context, but perhaps my "Nazdar" is not sufficiently developed to notice a problem.

No, it is done subtly and not in places where politics are discussed. It is a sneaky signifier.

[Uncle E]

I have no idea.

The answer is no. 88 is not a Nazi signifier on KVR.

[beely]

Hmm, now I'm rethinking what a "69 Chevy Special" means.

Nice!

[TechHaus]

I apologize for bringing it up, it was just an honest shocked reaction to seeing it on the synth at launch. I saw that it was brought to the dev's attention, and being that the dev is from where they are from, and it is ILLEGAL to represent that viewpoint there, a namechange was in order. It wasn't. It is what it is.

I expressed my viewpoint that this is maybe not great.

Moving on.

[TechHaus]

I have no idea.

The answer is no. 88 is not a Nazi signifier on KVR.

I mean, I did not go back through the archives. If you say so.

[Morphoice]

I won't pretend this needs much of a defense. EightySix was my JUNO-6 plugin, a six voice synthesizer from the 80s. The Jupiter-8 is an eight-voice synthesizer and from the eighties too, so it became EightyEight, not 88. Besides, every piano has 88 keys, and countless instruments use that number in their name for exactly that reason. It's a fitting name for an 80s eight-voice synth, full stop. And at the end of the day it's a number, a unit of counting. We can't very well retire those from everyday use because someone, somewhere, decided to read something into them.

As a German, I'll just say the connection being suggested here isn't one I've never ever encountered in daily life. And we probably grow up with arguably the strictest education and laws on that history anywhere. Reading it into a music plugin's model number is a real stretch. There's no hidden meaning. It's a synth. If anything, the connection says more about where the mind that reached for it went than about a synthesizer or music software's model number.

[Uncle E]

I apologize for bringing it up

Thank you

[TechHaus]

The 88 keys argument was goofy, though!

Just as a debate argument fail!

[Morphoice]

I apologize for bringing it up, it was just an honest shocked reaction to seeing it on the synth at launch. I saw that it was brought to the dev's attention, and being that the dev is from where they are from, and it is ILLEGAL to represent that viewpoint there, a namechange was in order. It wasn't. It is what it is.

I expressed my viewpoint that this is maybe not great.

Moving on.

Just to set the record straight for anyone reading: the plugin was never named with the number at all, it's the word "EightyEight," spelled out, following directly from my JUNO-6 plugin "EightySix." Beyond that, the number itself isn't illegal or banned in Germany regardless. What's banned is the use of actual Nazi symbols and slogans in a genuinely extremist context, which a synth plugin obviously isn't. So there was never an issue here.

[Bunny_boy]

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

On the internet, unless you were born in 1988, it usually means one thing if you use it in a handle or user name.

Maybe folks weren't aware of this. It is meant to signal to folks who are aware.

This is silly. Please stop looking for reasons to be offended. Or get off whatever weird corners of the internet where 88 usually means that. I'm not saying you're wrong about that one particular knuckle-dragger usage, but the context matters. Sometimes even 420 and 69 are just numbers. And those alternate meanings are way more popular than what you're talking about.

[audiojunkie]

Can we now get back to the actual plugin? I’m looking forward to it (in native Linux format, of course! ).

[whassup]

Can we now get back to the actual plugin? I’m looking forward to it (in native Linux format, of course! ).

Right!
did anybody play it already?
I dind't find a Windows version on Gumroad.

EDIT: Win version is on Gumroad now.
It is a very early version, yes.