oh wow yeah thats the other thing, different players sound so different its like individuals voices.
i think he was referring to the timbral flare that occurs when a trumpet is overblown into the loudest ranges, tho i kinda disagree with him , i feel milestone actually does pretty well in that area.
Miles'tone VST trumpet - Official Release
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- KVRian
- 1480 posts since 14 Jun, 2003
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 16 Jul, 2006
Please switch it on and post the MP3Tony Ostinato wrote:tho i kinda disagree with him , i feel milestone actually does pretty well in that area.
Niels
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- KVRian
- 1480 posts since 14 Jun, 2003
well, even a perfect emulation would have someone saying your lines now wouldnt it?
perhaps, once again, i can do some real trumpet and milestone together demos this week which will lend some context, perhaps i dont get really blarey on milestone because i dont get really blarey on real trumpet.
i dunno man, im trying to be as objective as i can be after all, but i'm pretty damn impressed by the behavior.
maybe you could give me an example of what youre listening for?
perhaps, once again, i can do some real trumpet and milestone together demos this week which will lend some context, perhaps i dont get really blarey on milestone because i dont get really blarey on real trumpet.
i dunno man, im trying to be as objective as i can be after all, but i'm pretty damn impressed by the behavior.
maybe you could give me an example of what youre listening for?
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 16 Jul, 2006
That's why I didn't understand, you replied to me... Your reaction shows it's you not me.Tony Ostinato wrote:well, even a perfect emulation would have someone saying your lines now wouldnt it?
SPECIAL FOR TONY:
TONY, MAN GREATEST DEMO I EVER HEARD, THE TRUMPET WOW, IT'S EXTACTLY A TRUMPET, MILES DAVIS AL THE WAY, GUIDO STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU'RE DONE WITH THAT PLUG, GO ON VACATION.
Niels
ps.
Sorry Guido.
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 16 Jul, 2006
You're right Tony, I am just as impressed like you.
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 16 Jul, 2006
If you couldn't hear already...Tony Ostinato wrote:maybe you could give me an example of what youre listening for?
Get a Miles Davis recording, hold it against your demo-song, or make one playing the same song Miles is playing, at least a couple of bars and pay attention with your ears, close your eyes and tell yourself 'seek life'
Niels
ps.
Tony, although I realize I am a bit ironic, but not hateful, OK
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1297 posts since 17 Aug, 2003 from Italy
Niels... the plugin's name is Miles'tone but this is just a name... It should simulate 'a' trumpet... a generic trumpet sound, I don't pretend to simulate Davis' lungs, mouth, cheeks, and his sore throat 
Also I'd say that I prefer Dizzy over Miles... I should rename this plugin 'Mr.Dizzy' 
Also I'd say that I prefer Dizzy over Miles...
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- KVRAF
- 13446 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
As much as I'm impressed with Tonys demo, I could instantly tell it's not a trumpet. Guess it's some phrasings that just aren't common on trumpets and it's even more so the legato lines which sound somewhat unnatural to me. Still, highly impressive.
How is legato controlled on this thing?
How is legato controlled on this thing?
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 16 Jul, 2006
I don't know Sascha, Guido refuses to email me or he is on vacation
Niels
Niels
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 16 Jul, 2006
Sascha,
If I you ask me, the legato has an 'on going unchanged sinus', if I re-call(heard) right.
Niels
If I you ask me, the legato has an 'on going unchanged sinus', if I re-call(heard) right.
Niels
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1297 posts since 17 Aug, 2003 from Italy
Have you also listened to this one?
This is played by me with keyboard and BC-3.
Tony uses a WX5 and when he pushes on high notes and high dynamics the sound get unnatural because the playing is more 'sax-ish' Can't explain this (hard to do in english!) but I noticed some artificiality since my first listen. Overall I like Tony's playing very much.
This is played by me with keyboard and BC-3.
Tony uses a WX5 and when he pushes on high notes and high dynamics the sound get unnatural because the playing is more 'sax-ish' Can't explain this (hard to do in english!) but I noticed some artificiality since my first listen. Overall I like Tony's playing very much.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1297 posts since 17 Aug, 2003 from Italy
Niels,NielsKrook wrote:Guido refuses to email me or he is on vacation
never got an email from you.
P.S.: how I wish to be on vacation... NOW!
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 16 Jul, 2006
Impressive demo...
Back to business
Besides the unnaturel sounding glissando's, if you listen carefully the dynamic-expression is missing (monotone).
Niels
Back to business
Besides the unnaturel sounding glissando's, if you listen carefully the dynamic-expression is missing (monotone).
Niels
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 16 Jul, 2006
I emailed through the KVR-forum, the email-form took-off, when using TAB and ENTER key writing the 'body' of the message...
So, I sent a second
So, I sent a second
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 16 Jul, 2006
For the record, I don't set 'a high standard' and call everything beneath it crap;
The right perspective is, I have good ears, I know the trumpet-sound, I hope I can be of any help.
Niels
The right perspective is, I have good ears, I know the trumpet-sound, I hope I can be of any help.
Niels