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the last thing i would ever want to do with music is make money. I hope there's some folks on this thread that are with me.

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dover666 wrote:the last thing i would ever want to do with music is make money. I hope there's some folks on this thread that are with me.
Depends on what you mean by "make money".
I'd love to earn an income from it but no means big enchilada money.
If I could make say 27-32K a year I'd be wrapped.
It would be more than enough for me too live of and survive on.
I could think of nothing better than doing what I loved for a living even if it was just enough income to cover bills the essentials , a roof over my head and the odd splurge on a new VST once or twice a year.
I however am not even remotely attracted too the idea of uber success, celebrity , fame and a mega bucks fortune :? .
I'd rather be broke than be on that end of the spectrum.
Oh ...wait, I am broke :lol: .
That probably explains why I'm happy.
Never been one to be driven by huge financial rewards myself.

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a couple bucks to pay for the cost of the cdr - meh. I make music for me. I can't stand the radio, or even most music. I like my music i make it i listen to it. sometimes people are like - what the hell is that??!!! can I have some? and i say, meh...

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If I could make enough money to update my gear now and then that would be heaven :harp: .
Eventually something intelligent will appear written here. Watch this space.

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dover666 wrote:the last thing i would ever want to do with music is make money. I hope there's some folks on this thread that are with me.
I certainly understand where you're coming from.

I fully respect people who are wrapped up in music for the reason of making it their primary trade, but by far most of the really great songwriting, and the excellent talent that I have come across, has been at festivals, gatherings, and parties -- music by people for whom the last thing on their minds is "compensation". They're no more doing their art "for money" than I cooked my breakfast this morning expecting money for it.


The relatively few people who work in the domain of music as a business, are so close to it, they probably don't realize just how many people are making music for no other compensation than the satisfaction of having done it.

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I loved making money from music - didn't make a shit load, but I was a student at the time so getting paid for gigging & doing vocals was great - doing something enjoyable & getting paid.
The little publishing advance I got was nice too - shame it got spent on drugs, booze & clothes (& a few textbooks).

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diverdee wrote:I loved making money from music - didn't make a shit load, but I was a student at the time so getting paid for gigging & doing vocals was great - doing something enjoyable & getting paid.
The little publishing advance I got was nice too - shame it got spent on drugs, booze & clothes (& a few textbooks).
See, by downloading mp3's off of Kazaa we are saving musicians from the inevitable pitfalls of being wealthy.

(Ducks and runs).

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Reverse Engineer wrote:Not buying albums isn't being a "smart consumer" it's completely degrading the album format. There's songs on some cd's that NEED the previous/next track feeding in or out of it to make its impact, picking and choosing the "hits" from places like itunes is pretty vulgar. Buying from itunes et al and dismissing hard copy formats in general is pretty fkucing disgusting also IMO. Think about it if you care.
Wait wait wait! This might be true with the few GREAT albums. But for the most part, albums are only decent, or perhaps good, and among the few gems there are numerous tracks you really shouldn't vaste money on buying, or time on listening to.

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dover666 wrote:the last thing i would ever want to do with music is make money. I hope there's some folks on this thread that are with me.
I call those who make music for money busicians...you're not alone...;)
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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So, not buying albums is going to encourage labels and artists to spend MORE time on creating great albums or less? I think the answer is obvious.
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mtv get off the mtv get off the air get off the air get off the aaaiiiiaaiiirrrr ....
and so it was our beloved corporate gods, claimed they created rock video....
(and then again, there is a cadillac having a holiday in cambodia, but don't blame jello.....) :)

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I'll paypal everyone who downloads my new album "mobb'd by Phat bitcheese" £7.99 - $10. There's a catch though. To get the money you must burn it to a cd, make your own album art and then take a photograph of it balanced in your ass cheeks (ala an organic cd holder.) Email me for details at gordonfister@cleftlip.com

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I'll give yah twenty bux for what yer smokin :hihi:
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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Reverse Engineer wrote:I'll paypal everyone who downloads my new album "mobb'd by Phat bitcheese" £7.99 - $10. There's a catch though. To get the money you must burn it to a cd, make your own album art and then take a photograph of it balanced in your ass cheeks (ala an organic cd holder.) Email me for details at gordonfister@cleftlip.com
Oooohhhh that's sooooooo tempting :hug: :lol:
I'll make a nice jewel case of drinking straw (thick shake size) and you can e.mail the money details too
s.b.feltcher@bumbeltch.com :wink: .

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