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shamann · Post by **shamann** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:34 am

I'd also like to make the motion that it be called "Tolga's Great Freeware Free-for-all of Ought Six."

tuz · Post by **tuz** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:47 am

shamann wrote:I'd also like to make the motion that it be called "Tolga's Great Freeware Free-for-all of Ought Six."

i was thinking "annual orgasm number 1"...

considering all goes well with this and everybody enjoys it, and of course if my financials let me, i'm willing to do it again next year.

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:49 am

tuz wrote:i was thinking "annual orgasm number 1"...

Well, then, with yours the commemorative t-shirts should read "tuz touched me there".

tuz · Post by **tuz** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:51 am

shamann wrote:
tuz wrote:i was thinking "annual orgasm number 1"...
Well, then, with yours the commemorative t-shirts should read "tuz touched me there".

jobromedia · Post by **jobromedia** » Thu May 18, 2006 6:39 am

Seriously the gui thing annoyed me a bit. The problem is that a nice gui is really required to lift a plugin. Think about it: You've ordered the nicest dish and when you get it served it has no taste at all, just a slight test of the paperdish it is served on. Do you get me? Good that you changed the rule.

stefancrs · Post by **stefancrs** » Thu May 18, 2006 6:47 am

tuz wrote:so far for rules i have:

submissions = free for all

any platform, any type (pc, mac, instrument, effect, emu, pm, standalone, se, sm, c++, host) anything goes... as long as it's developed for the purposes of assisting with music making, it's in. i'm not sure about sample packs because they might be hard to d/l for some.

submissions will begin june 15th and end september 14th.

submissions will be sent to me and i will hold onto them until the release date.

all submissions will be released on september 15th for public voting.

voting will end september 30th. ***might change depending on the amount of entries. if there's a hundred, obviously we'll give more time for people to play with them.

people have to vote for all entries from highest to lowest.

winner(s) will be announced on october 1st or 2nd and first place will get $500.00.

in case a dev needs a beta tester, they will contact me and i will direct them to a beta tester.

:p

Sounds fine, but how should the users rate the plugins they aren't able to test (PC only plugins for a MAC user or vice versa, etc)? That's the only thing I find a bit... "troublesome".

Not sure I've said it, so I say it now. This is an awesome initiative tuz!

arke · Post by **arke** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:08 am

tuz wrote: in case a dev needs a beta tester, they will contact me and i will direct them to a beta tester.

Yes, I think assigning beta testers is a very good idea. However, make sure you don't assign too many beta testers because beta testers tend to be biased towards what they tested because they know it well. Maybe have 5 beta testers to go around, each developer gets assigned 2 of them, special consideration regarding macs?

Also, maybe you can also assign artists for the less skilled among us. I know exactly how I want the GUI layed out but I would like somebody to make it look pretty, and maybe give me further ideas on the layout.

mdsp · Post by **mdsp** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:09 am

tuz wrote:
tweakbench wrote:i'm intending to do a new tweakbench creation for this compo and release it on the appropriate day, but it will still be a normal release for my site..

does that conflict with any of the rules?

based on a suggestion, i was considering anonymous submissions with original guis so people wouldn't know who they're voting for. if this is ok with everybody, would you consider releasing it after the voting is over?

when i say original guis, i mean one that wouldn't give you away. so would you, all of you i mean, be ok with your submissions having somewhat different guis than your usual?

that would also mean using another vendor string in the plugin, because an anonymous plugin classified under "mdsp @ smartelectronix" wouldn't be anonymous...

I understand the motivation for anonymous voting but in this case It would only complicate things for everyone.

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:31 am

stefancrs wrote: Sounds fine, but how should the users rate the plugins they aren't able to test (PC only plugins for a MAC user or vice versa, etc)?

Perhaps we could rate the plug's GUI on the basis: "how much does this plug make me want to buy a PC / mac?"

Sounds like fun anyway, count me in

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:56 am

mdsp wrote:I understand the motivation for anonymous voting but in this case It would only complicate things for everyone.

Yes, agreed. Even though I think anonymous is cool, in Audio Units world you can't change the Manufacturer ID from anonymous to the developer's without breaking compatibility to projects already done with a plugin. This would be a major drag... so, for a hassle free mode, I'd vote against anonymous.

(Well, based on the strange file structure of my plugins, everyone will identify a u-he plug anyway, no matter what the label says...)

Urs

stefancrs · Post by **stefancrs** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:59 am

I don't think anyone else using SynthMaker has joined the competition yet, and it's not like it's impossible to spot if a dll comes from SynthMaker or not, would make my product quite non-anonymous...

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu May 18, 2006 9:03 am

arke wrote:Maybe have 5 beta testers to go around, each developer gets assigned 2 of them, special consideration regarding macs?

2 beta testers?!? I can't work this way

Seriously, I already have a quite nice beta group and a good mode to work with them. I'd be very happy if I didn't have to work on another basis. However, if it must be, I'll do it with a bunch of strangers, but I need at least 2 for each format (AU, VST Mac, AU & VST for Intel Macs, VST Win) with different configurations, i.e. at least one expert for Fruity Loops and one for Sonar.

Cheers,

Urs

arke · Post by **arke** » Thu May 18, 2006 9:29 am

Urs wrote:
arke wrote:Maybe have 5 beta testers to go around, each developer gets assigned 2 of them, special consideration regarding macs?
2 beta testers?!? I can't work this way

Seriously, I already have a quite nice beta group and a good mode to work with them. I'd be very happy if I didn't have to work on another basis. However, if it must be, I'll do it with a bunch of strangers, but I need at least 2 for each format (AU, VST Mac, AU & VST for Intel Macs, VST Win) with different configurations, i.e. at least one expert for Fruity Loops and one for Sonar.

Cheers,

Urs

Oh

Well, I'm completely new to this and you're not, so that might be why

. And might also be why I should need a beta tester or two more, but I'm willing to work with whatever I have/get.

Regarding your own beta group, I think if you already have your own beta testers then you dont need to be assigned any, it was just for people like me that don't have anybody that could beta test.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu May 18, 2006 9:43 am

arke wrote:Regarding your own beta group, I think if you already have your own beta testers then you dont need to be assigned any, it was just for people like me that don't have anybody that could beta test.

Get as many testers as you can handle

Beta testing is best done within a mailing list or a forum. If you try to work with just email, you'll have to answer each and every question again and again.

Cheers,

Urs

arke · Post by **arke** » Thu May 18, 2006 9:53 am

Urs wrote:
arke wrote:Regarding your own beta group, I think if you already have your own beta testers then you dont need to be assigned any, it was just for people like me that don't have anybody that could beta test.
Get as many testers as you can handle

Beta testing is best done within a mailing list or a forum. If you try to work with just email, you'll have to answer each and every question again and again.

thannks for the tip, I think I'll do that

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Do you know of any free mailing list thing or something similar?

Dev Competition-Now with its own forum!!