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soerja · Post by **soerja** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:17 am

NewAngelSociety wrote:That is FL8 for me. Ever since I started making music I have been using this daw, now it is because my workflow is pretty fast within it - and it is very stable to run... I have yet in these years of making music, to have FL crash on me. I was actually quite surprised to see FL pushing up the votes - I rarely see any articles on FL anywhere online or in Computer music magazine or sound on sound so rather surprised I am not the only one using FL!!

and we're in cubase land now. ain't it somethin?

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:37 am

FL Studio is an amazing product. Anyone that says otherwise is biased or uninformed or just doesn't need, use or even like that kinda tool.

It's great. It wouldn't be my personal choice for multitrack audio recording and editing though.

soerja · Post by **soerja** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:27 am

LawrenceF wrote:FL Studio is an amazing product. Anyone that says otherwise is biased or uninformed or just doesn't need, use or even like that kinda tool.

It's great. It wouldn't be my personal choice for multitrack audio recording and editing though.

Referring to the poll result, cubase seem to be a favorable host. May be in the future i will considering on purchasing it and use it side by side with FL. Just a quick question (or may be i should start a new topic) what things are considered cubase superiority over FLSTUDIO?

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:48 am

soerja wrote:Just a quick question (or may be i should start a new topic) what things are considered cubase superiority over FLSTUDIO?

I wouldn't use the term "superior" as it's too all-encompassing and doesn't take into account the many variables in things like this. But on the short list of some things I do with audio that I'd probably stuggle with in FL Studio (my version is 6 so I can't speak to FL8)..

- Audio take comping
- Audio warping/stretching
- Tempo warping
- Vocal pitch correction
- Reverb
- Just general all around audio editing, too many different things to mention.

I haven't tried so I don't know but can you even sidechain audio in FL Studio? Probably. Can you render multiple audio stems at once? I don't know... most of my use of it is as a VSTi so I do those things in the host.

Can you export your projects as OMF or other formats compatible with other daws except for audio? Dunno. Broadcast wave? Again, I don't know. Surround 5.1, 7.1 etc, etc? Dunno. You tell me.

How is it for scoring to video? Never tried. Can you load video in Fl Studio? I will say I LOVE the FL Studio parametric eq for drums in there. It's great.

FL Studio is as good a midi sequencer / electronic production environment as any (again depending on how you prefer to work) but it's multi-track audio handling and editing doesn't seem to be at the level of some other hosts, nor was it initially designed to be I don't think.

Example: In Cubase I set the project to D and everything I add to the project automatically gets pitched to D and stretched to the project tempo. FL may do the same, again I wouldn't know since I only use it as a VSTi.

How is multi-track audio recording editing in version 8?

Again, "superior" is a word that will lead to silly arguments. A better word is "preferred". I prefer (for what I do) to do those types of things in a more traditional audio host like Cubase.

FL Studio is a different class of host from Cubase, Sonar. Not necessarily better or worse just a different focus.

Anyway, getting long winded here...

most people I know that use FL Studio may produce entire beats (music tracks) there but they render the tracks to audio, shut it down and track vocals, live instruments and mix in the more traditional hosts.

As much as I love FL, I couldn't imagine mixing a 32 track audio project in it.

soerja · Post by **soerja** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:33 am

and that's a wrap. I shall close my other topic.
Allright, Chrome of FL can load video to the project, About pitch correction and time stretching I usually do it on track properties (there are alot of controls there including reversing the audio and stretching and stuffs, but they aren't automatic), for vox editing stuff however I prefer Melodyne plugin. i haven't made a project that exceeds 15 audio track so...(there ofcourse projects that contain more than 30 audio tracks but they are not played at the same time) And about that 5.1 support, there's a template in fl to jump start producing a 5.1 audio works. The kind of music i am doing (rock-groove beats-jazz) is preety much containable in FLSTUDIO (as to such kind of song there wouldn't be alot of fancy fx to be applied)

KingofBeers · Post by **KingofBeers** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:46 pm

Cubase and Logic user here.

Cheers.

morelia · Post by **morelia** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:48 pm

Tracktion

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:34 pm

Sonar

I've just said goodbye to Reaper after freezing my PC every time I add a new VSTi track! and need to reboot

Cubase has problems with some of my fav free VSTi

Now I only need 22inch monitor with high resolution for Sonar

soerja · Post by **soerja** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:08 am

EnGee wrote:Sonar
I've just said goodbye to Reaper after freezing my PC every time I add a new VSTi track! and need to reboot
Cubase has problems with some of my fav free VSTi
Now I only need 22inch monitor with high resolution for Sonar

and what vsti are those?

proletkult · Post by **proletkult** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:49 am

KingofBeers wrote:Cubase and Logic user here.

Cheers.

Do you have a preference?

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:45 pm

soerja wrote:
EnGee wrote:Sonar
I've just said goodbye to Reaper after freezing my PC every time I add a new VSTi track! and need to reboot
Cubase has problems with some of my fav free VSTi
Now I only need 22inch monitor with high resolution for Sonar
and what vsti are those?

You mean the free ones that cubase has problems with?
ZynAddSubFX, Hexter. Especially Zyn which I hear some light random clicks like noise. While in sonar I don't have such problems.

CaptainMARC · Post by **CaptainMARC** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:03 pm

Reaper. Ex-Nuendo4.

But these days, all of them are pretty good. Just find one to suit your own workflow.

S-N-S · Post by **S-N-S** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:15 pm

renoise 2 is all i need

KingofBeers · Post by **KingofBeers** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:59 am

proletkult wrote:
KingofBeers wrote:Cubase and Logic user here.

Cheers.
Do you have a preference?

Not really, I'm in a composing team and it makes it easier to work with the other people at any given time, PC - Cubase, Mac - Cubase & Logic..... they are practically clones of each other anyway....Audio options in Cubase5 are better, Logics FX are better...and so forth...if one option is better in the other DAW we go with that and incorperate it in each project etc....all about work flow at the end of the day, they are just tools after all.

Cheers.

soerja · Post by **soerja** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:55 pm

awesome.. why are there only few people use Pro Tool? ain't it the industry standard?

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