Poll: What is your favorite DAW?

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Gearslutz is a well known forum besides KvR. Some people will say its more for the professional users.

Excuse me but I for I, find it hard to believe when I read their "job" section ...
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/jobs-offered/

well in fairness it's not all binary

[Vonbrucken]

Gearslutz is a well known forum besides KvR. Some people will say its more for the professional users.

Excuse me but I for I, find it hard to believe when I read their "job" section ...
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/jobs-offered/

well in fairness it's not all binary

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boy the pictures you post are nothing like me....that is if that's what you're going after. I really look more like the caveman commercials

[eduardo_b]

Gearslutz is a well known forum besides KvR. Some people will say its more for the professional users.

Excuse me but I for I, find it hard to believe when I read their "job" section ...
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/jobs-offered/

well in fairness it's not all binary

Oh oh, showing a photo of RN could have a negative effect on this thread.

[buscemi]

I guess we got tired of Mac vs PC? KVR vs GS is the new Mac vs PC or something, I suppose. There are pros on both sites, pros and cons about each site, both are VERY valuable resources. I know I'd know a heck of a lot more if anything like either of these forums existed when I started learning about recording, let alone both.

I also don't get the "Jobs Offered" board point. Signal-to-noise ratio would probably be EXACTLY the same if there was the equivalent board here. I see a lot of actual studios looking for qualified engineers there along with the flak and we'd see the same here if it existed IMHO. Also, there are probably many professionals there that simply ignore both jobs offered and wanted sections of GS and there would be many here that wouldn't bother with those boards either.

[koolkeys]

There are many things these polls won't be accurate on.

There is nothing scientific about these polls, and they only say the preferences of the VERY small minority of people who 1) happen to read the respective forums 2) care enough to vote

In the industry, PT is the standard in studios. Do you really think it falls BELOW almost every other host with less than 1%? Of course not.

Do you really think that Reaper has more users than Logic or Sonar? No way(no offense to Reaper, but it's just not been around long enough to have the userbase they have).

Cubase is likely one of the most widely owned hosts, if not THE most widely owned. But can it be proven? Of course not.

These polls are good for fun, but in absolutely no way do they represent the real world. The thousands and thousands and thousands of users who never frequent one of these forums won't ever vote. Heck, I would venture a guest that most of them are too busy doing work with their host every day that they can't spend multiple hours a day at a place like KVR(not all obviously, but many).

Brent

[4damind]

Gearslutz is a well known forum besides KvR. Some people will say its more for the professional users.

Excuse me but I for I, find it hard to believe when I read their "job" section ...
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/jobs-offered/

Hehe, yes... But you will find names on GS like Bruce Swedien, Bob Katz, Charles Dye, Paul Friendle,... writing on GS, having their own threads etc. Gearslutz is Afaik founded by Jules Standen, a freelance producer and engineer from London.
KvR is primary a plug-in news forum from Ben Turl (later aquired by Muse Research).
This difference with the forums is also seen in such polls. At GS you see many PT users, here not. Logic is a strong DAW on GS but not on KvR.

May be the truth is something between Gearslutz and KvR, so its IMHO not wrong to look sometimes also to other forums

[eduardo_b]

There is nothing scientific about these polls, and they only say the preferences of the VERY small minority of people who 1) happen to read the respective forums 2) care enough to vote

This is the most significant. There's no statistical value to these kinds of polls because there isn't true randomness. Those who participate are self-selecting, which any statistician will tell you invalidates the crucial random requirement for valid results.

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Gearslutz is a well known forum besides KvR. Some people will say its more for the professional users.

Excuse me but I for I, find it hard to believe when I read their "job" section ...
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/jobs-offered/

Hehe, yes... But you will find names on GS like Bruce Swedien, Bob Katz, Charles Dye, Paul Friendle,... writing on GS, having their own threads etc. Gearslutz is Afaik founded by Jules Standen, a freelance producer and engineer from London.
KvR is primary a plug-in news forum from Ben Turl (later aquired by Muse Research).
This difference with the forums is also seen in such polls. At GS you see many PT users, here not. Logic is a strong DAW on GS but not on KvR.

May be the truth is something between Gearslutz and KvR, so its IMHO not wrong to look sometimes also to other forums

I find Bob Katz posting on Samplitude forums too...however KvR is a different kind of professional, not better not more. Here you have a lot of professional developers and a different mix, there's room for both at each forum. There is nothing wrong with looking at as many forums as you want.

I do think you're going to take some flack over "KvR is primary a plug-in news forum from Ben Turl" and rightfully so imo. BTW name dropping is kind of silly, it's not who says it but what is said.

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There is nothing scientific about these polls, and they only say the preferences of the VERY small minority of people who 1) happen to read the respective forums 2) care enough to vote

This is the most significant. There's no statistical value to these kinds of polls because there isn't true randomness. Those who participate are self-selecting, which any statistician will tell you invalidates the crucial random requirement for valid results.

ahh but there is something significant, there is validation for those who might question their choices.

[eduardo_b]

BTW name dropping is kind of silly, it's not who says it but what is said.

When did that change?

Seriously, there are people in the business whose expertise does offer a higher level of knowledge and experience than is common to most of us.

[eduardo_b]

There is nothing scientific about these polls, and they only say the preferences of the VERY small minority of people who 1) happen to read the respective forums 2) care enough to vote

This is the most significant. There's no statistical value to these kinds of polls because there isn't true randomness. Those who participate are self-selecting, which any statistician will tell you invalidates the crucial random requirement for valid results.

ahh but there is something significant, there is validation for those who might question their choices.

You mean they question their own judgement on the basis of the poll vote totals?

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There is nothing scientific about these polls, and they only say the preferences of the VERY small minority of people who 1) happen to read the respective forums 2) care enough to vote

This is the most significant. There's no statistical value to these kinds of polls because there isn't true randomness. Those who participate are self-selecting, which any statistician will tell you invalidates the crucial random requirement for valid results.

ahh but there is something significant, there is validation for those who might question their choices.

You mean they question their own judgement on the basis of the poll vote totals?

some get validation by having the more popular host, I'm not saying significant as the amount of people that are like that. I'm saying that having what is most popular is significant to some people.

[eduardo_b]

There is nothing scientific about these polls, and they only say the preferences of the VERY small minority of people who 1) happen to read the respective forums 2) care enough to vote

This is the most significant. There's no statistical value to these kinds of polls because there isn't true randomness. Those who participate are self-selecting, which any statistician will tell you invalidates the crucial random requirement for valid results.

ahh but there is something significant, there is validation for those who might question their choices.

You mean they question their own judgement on the basis of the poll vote totals?

some get validation by having the more popular host, I'm not saying significant as the amount of people that are like that. I'm saying that having what is most popular is significant to some people.

I suppose you're right, and this is probably true for a lot more things than just DAWs, but it would be so self-defeating to use a DAW that is popular but doesn't feel right.

[deraudrl]

ahh but there is something significant, there is validation for those who might question their choices.

Oh dear lord. Every forum I read on every hobby on earth contains dozens (if not hundreds) of threads starting out with something like, "I just spent the rent/food money on DAW-Of-The-Week. Please tell me I'm not a complete idiot!", followed immediately by a chorus of people jumping in with, "It might have been a good idea to ask that question before you committed yourself to a life of poverty, doncha think?"

And I guess it's slightly healthier than the penniless wanker described above mindlessly flaming anyone who has the gall to report the obvious bugs in v0.0.1(beta) of DAW-Of-The-Week. But just barely.

(At least here, it's relative cheap stuff, rather than the $10K power tools or $50K cars I've seen people seeking "validation" for elsewhere.)