In Reaper you can edit every single audio sample in this ultra easy-to-use numerical wave sample display. Just enter a number between 0 and 2,048,036,015 every microsecond and you're done. *Sheesh* Just can't please everybody.
Would you still buy Reaper if it will cost you as much as the other DAWs ?
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- KVRAF
- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
This IS the built-on audio editor:
In Reaper you can edit every single audio sample in this ultra easy-to-use numerical wave sample display. Just enter a number between 0 and 2,048,036,015 every microsecond and you're done. *Sheesh* Just can't please everybody.
In Reaper you can edit every single audio sample in this ultra easy-to-use numerical wave sample display. Just enter a number between 0 and 2,048,036,015 every microsecond and you're done. *Sheesh* Just can't please everybody.
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
It absolutely is!!! And it doesn't take too many plugins with quite some parameters to make this a nightmare.blueman wrote:Who here is going to argue that THIS is good usability or high quality interface design?! I'll concede the point about differing opinions but THIS is crap!!
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
THIS!!! Absolutely.blueman wrote:It definitely doth not sucketh! It just has an unfinished, poorly implemented UI. It's actually quite brilliant otherwise; hence the frustration I have with it which is furthered by those who minimize the issue as mere eye candy or trivial concerns about window dressings.
I would GLADLY pay double the asking price if they'd finally hire a UI designer to make a proper GUI that is still modular. It's quite doable! Photoshop has a gorgeous, intuitive interface that is modular, somehwhat customizable and includes actions
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
Yes, if that's what you want. How do you set up parameter modulation without this page?Astromann wrote:I agree...this is not a good look when all this parameters are on display.
But generally I simply check the "show last touched FX parameters only" box, and that collapses that display into a neat 7 main parameter only display.
Pretty easy really..1 click.
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
Why don't you buy a gooooood sample editor for the price difference between R and C? I mean Reaper IS that cheap.concealed identity wrote:Just out of curiosity, why haven't Cuckos made an integrated wav/sample editor in Reaper yet? I use the one in Cubase all the time, but the way Reaper uses external editors is (especially if you don't own one and are forced to use Audacity) is a huge pain. It's just something I would have thought they would have implemented by now, with all of the work they do on adding features.
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
mandolarian wrote:This IS the built-on audio editor:
In Reaper you can edit every single audio sample in this ultra easy-to-use numerical wave sample display. Just enter a number between 0 and 2,048,036,015 every microsecond and you're done. *Sheesh* Just can't please everybody.
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
To the original question: Coming from Nuendo which had some bugs back then which drove me nearly crazy e-v-e-r-y single day: If Reaper would cost like €500 up I would definitely have some serious checkout sessions with the other DAWs to see if their shortcomings would satisfy my wish for something fresh a little better during the next few years.
Right now Reaper does a lot of what I want from it. Actually after ditching the 64bit nightmare which was unstable with the internal plugin bridge to the point that I was looking for other hosts. I'm back to the 32bit version and Reaper is as stable as it ever was. Very refreshing and relaxing to say the least. Nuendo was a crash whore in comparisson. I drove it to the max CPU level: You could have betted WHEN it crashed, not if.
So right now Reaper isn't that bad. It has a few workflow-design flaws and not the bestest GUI out there but I didn't see any DAW that is really ahead of it. Sad, really sad.
The two skins that are the best for me right now are Reaction and RADO. Very few complaints with those.
Phew, did I really do that?
Right now Reaper does a lot of what I want from it. Actually after ditching the 64bit nightmare which was unstable with the internal plugin bridge to the point that I was looking for other hosts. I'm back to the 32bit version and Reaper is as stable as it ever was. Very refreshing and relaxing to say the least. Nuendo was a crash whore in comparisson. I drove it to the max CPU level: You could have betted WHEN it crashed, not if.
So right now Reaper isn't that bad. It has a few workflow-design flaws and not the bestest GUI out there but I didn't see any DAW that is really ahead of it. Sad, really sad.
The two skins that are the best for me right now are Reaction and RADO. Very few complaints with those.
Phew, did I really do that?
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Bronto Scorpio Bronto Scorpio https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=98170 - KVRAF
- 5546 posts since 13 Feb, 2006 from Wiesmoor, Germany
Reaper always reminds me of a Richard Kelly movie
Many good ideas thrown together to a complete mess. There are some awesome themes availabe but they just paint the mess in nicer colors.
I'd really love to use it since it has some nice features I just don't have in Cubase but I can't stand the current implementation.
That's just me though! I'm glad that many people like it! It's awesome how many really good tools for little money are available today
Cheers
Dennis
Many good ideas thrown together to a complete mess. There are some awesome themes availabe but they just paint the mess in nicer colors.
I'd really love to use it since it has some nice features I just don't have in Cubase but I can't stand the current implementation.
That's just me though! I'm glad that many people like it! It's awesome how many really good tools for little money are available today
Cheers
Dennis
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
Hey Dennis,
I have this question for some time now: Does Cubase still have this 500 vst-windows mess? I mean is there now a way to flip between channels and the crresponding vst windows open up?
There's this VERY cool thing in Reaper. It's got a FX window that let's me see all plugins on that one track in a list. I can switch between them and their GUIs show up as I do. No more CTRL + TAB and CTRL + W as the most used shortcuts to flip through the vst windows and close them.
Does Cubase have something like Reaper nowadays?
I have this question for some time now: Does Cubase still have this 500 vst-windows mess? I mean is there now a way to flip between channels and the crresponding vst windows open up?
There's this VERY cool thing in Reaper. It's got a FX window that let's me see all plugins on that one track in a list. I can switch between them and their GUIs show up as I do. No more CTRL + TAB and CTRL + W as the most used shortcuts to flip through the vst windows and close them.
Does Cubase have something like Reaper nowadays?
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- KVRian
- 1325 posts since 6 Mar, 2001 from London, UK
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- Banned
- 340 posts since 30 Sep, 2009
The interface in Reaper could be improved no end, it has a plenty of UI niggles that are beyond the scope of this thread.DrApostropheX wrote:To be honest, I'm not sure how they could improve the UI much while still retaining Reaper's modularity and flexible routing and workflow. It looks the way it does because you can do practically anything with it.
I do like the interface of Sonar X1, but you're still rather locked into Sonar's way of doing things with it. And if that's not the way you want to work, oh well!
It really is worth learning to use an app before making blanket statements that are very very wrongshallow wrote:another example of clunky interface is in the use of beziers for automation - beziers are good and at least Reaper has them - but instead of using a 'handle' approach as for example Illustrator does - you have to open a little box and adjust via that. And there is no key command or macro available to do that! (or wasn't when I last looked)
Again - nice to have the functionality but the implementation of the interface is poor and only needed to copy a common convention.
Reaper has had handle type adjustment since the very first version of its Beziers, just hold alt
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 7 Dec, 2011 from South Africa
I've switched over to Reaper about two months ago. Its been nothing but great. I do own Qbase, logic, PT etc. I've worked extensively on all those platforms. I must admit that I've never ever really liked Qbase coming from PT. I've recently been looking for a stable (keyword) environment to work in 64bit. Reaper hands down wins the battle.
Reaper the way I see it comes more from a tape style environment, so if you like that (as I do) this program will blow your mind. It is almost totally customizable. I can make it work the way I want to work.
Since installing the system (which is a breeze by the way) we had great joy using it and I and others using it find themselves now more concerned with being creative rather than getting to know how the software wants you to work.
I've recently done my first large mix on Reaper to test it out, and according to me ( and no I am not getting into the which DAW sounds the best nonsense except maybe for SAWPlus) Reaper is easy to use and extremely fast. Once you get used to how you have to work (which is the same with all other DAW's) you can get around quite quickly. It is according to me far quicker to work that Qbase.
I also write from the mindset that when I mix all channels are mixed down to audio. I personally like to work that way. We do use Reaper for arranging as well where the 64bit comes into play.
This is also my opinion and everyone should work on a system that lets them be as creative as possible. This industry is extremely competitive doing great work faster is key. Whatever tools you use (DAW's included) use that.
Reaper the way I see it comes more from a tape style environment, so if you like that (as I do) this program will blow your mind. It is almost totally customizable. I can make it work the way I want to work.
Since installing the system (which is a breeze by the way) we had great joy using it and I and others using it find themselves now more concerned with being creative rather than getting to know how the software wants you to work.
I've recently done my first large mix on Reaper to test it out, and according to me ( and no I am not getting into the which DAW sounds the best nonsense except maybe for SAWPlus) Reaper is easy to use and extremely fast. Once you get used to how you have to work (which is the same with all other DAW's) you can get around quite quickly. It is according to me far quicker to work that Qbase.
I also write from the mindset that when I mix all channels are mixed down to audio. I personally like to work that way. We do use Reaper for arranging as well where the 64bit comes into play.
This is also my opinion and everyone should work on a system that lets them be as creative as possible. This industry is extremely competitive doing great work faster is key. Whatever tools you use (DAW's included) use that.