KVR Audio

lionscub68 · Post by **lionscub68** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:38 pm

faun2500 wrote:
lionscub68 wrote:Is there a setting where I can watch this string here, but only get emails telling me there is a relevant post, instead of this b*llsh*t back and forth?
No

Bummer.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:45 pm

lionscub68 wrote:Is there a setting where I can watch this string here, but only get emails telling me there is a relevant post, instead of this b*llsh*t back and forth?

You mean like the b*llsh*t you just posted?

And again.........

lionscub68 wrote:Bummer.

Just exactly what would be relevant to talk about until the Demo is released? Maybe you should watch the News section and then come back to this thread after a demo has been released. Then there will something to actually talk about...... Or you could just deal with the "bullsh*t and shut up........

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fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:01 pm

IMO, this plug-in will be the closest to the Juno-60 that a virtual instrument ever was. Now, those that think the Juno-60 sounds bad, are probably just forgotten of how it sounds (it was a loooong time since the Juno-60 appeared - in the dark ages of pre-MIDI). Of course, it will not be the most powerful synyh on earth, or the most flexible. As a matter of fact, it will be rather simple - as the Juno-60 was (though still flexible). Those who like this kind will love it. Those who want three or four oscillators, wavetables/superwaves and lots of modulation options probably not so much.
It is what it is, and rather good at it.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:21 pm

To the beta testers: how does the chorus sound?

And what's with all this "Oh, will it sound better than DIVA" talk? The question I ask is: will it sound better than TyrellN6 v2?

BTW, to whoever asked: I will send you emails every time there is a relevant reply in this thread. I only charge $20 per notification. You don't have to pay if I don't email you.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:32 pm

fmr wrote:Now, those that think the Juno-60 sounds bad, are probably just forgotten of how it sounds

I haven't forgotten anything. That's why I'm still an "Ex" Juno 60 owner. I have every faith that this TOGU plugin will be the very highest quality and I will almost certainly buy it for nostalgia's sake if nothing else.....

"a good replacement for the analog device with all the advantages software plugins have."

I'm hoping that this line in the teaser text will mean that it actually sounds better than a Juno...for example please tell it's not limited to 6 voice poly etc....

Anxiously awaiting the demo release...

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:36 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
And what's with all this "Oh, will it sound better than DIVA" talk?

If I remember my history correctly Urs modeled DIVA at least in part on his Juno 60 so the comparison is inevitable.....(Yes I know DIVA does much more than Juno sounds but I only have the very early demo so can't compare it with the latest release). And yes I love Tyrell N6 too.......

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:24 am

Teksonik wrote:
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
And what's with all this "Oh, will it sound better than DIVA" talk?
If I remember my history correctly Urs modeled DIVA at least in part on his Juno 60 so the comparison is inevitable.....(Yes I know DIVA does much more than Juno sounds but I only have the very early demo so can't compare it with the latest release). And yes I love Tyrell N6 too.......

I always thought DIVA was based on an Alpha Juno and CS80, though it could do a convincing Juno 60 with the right settings, whereas Tyrell N6 was really his Juno. Either way, I was only kidding.

The latest demos I heard of this sound tantalizingly close to the hardware. Very excited for this.

jbuonacc · Post by **jbuonacc** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:19 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:I always thought DIVA was based on an Alpha Juno and CS80, though it could do a convincing Juno 60 with the right settings, whereas Tyrell N6 was really his Juno. Either way, I was only kidding.

huh?

anyway, even if this thing sounds *exactly* like a Juno-6/60, there's going to be a load of wankers who say it doesn't sound close enough and hasn't got the "mojo" of the real thing. not to mention that "it doesn't feel like a real instrument" due to it being a softsynth. people are ridiculous.

i'm just wondering why the slider handles look so "wrong". they're too flat/wide and look offset in the teaser pic.

darsho · Post by **darsho** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:00 am

jbuonacc wrote: anyway, even if this thing sounds *exactly* like a Juno-6/60, there's going to be a load of wankers who say it doesn't sound close enough and hasn't got the "mojo" of the real thing. not to mention that "it doesn't feel like a real instrument" due to it being a softsynth. people are ridiculous.

well it's an emulation, so it cannot sound 'exactly' the same.
those old harware synths, you seldom find two that sound the same even if they are the same model.
soft synths sound very good these days but not exactly like the ones they emulate.
get over it.
they sound good enough to make good music with them, which is what counts.
who wants to put up with a 30 year old analogue that needs repair avery now and then, I know I don't.

p.s.
I really like Tyrell 2, using it a lot. Will be interstsing to see if the new TAL will be of the same quality.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:23 am

darsho wrote:soft synths sound very good these days but not exactly like the ones they emulate.

Which is a good thing......thank God softsynths sound better than hardware..........

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:40 pm

Is Tyrell N6 really modelled after a Juno-60 soundwise? It sounds pretty different from the TAL-U-NO-62 imo... so one has got to do the job pretty bad i guess. I always found the TAL sounds more like a Juno, never really had the chance to play one, but from sound examples it does. Also the Tyrell's oscillators sound a bit more artificial IMO, when playing the init preset, i always felt like the sound is "coming from a cave" a bit (can't describe it better), takes a bit to get used to it, but then it sounds really nice.

faun2500 · Post by **faun2500** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:42 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:To the beta testers: how does the chorus sound?

And what's with all this "Oh, will it sound better than DIVA" talk? The question I ask is: will it sound better than TyrellN6 v2?

Tyrelln6 is very "big" sounding!

electro · Post by **electro** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:29 pm

chk071 wrote:Is Tyrell N6 really modelled after a Juno-60 soundwise? It sounds pretty different from the TAL-U-NO-62 imo... so one has got to do the job pretty bad i guess. I always found the TAL sounds more like a Juno, never really had the chance to play one, but from sound examples it does. Also the Tyrell's oscillators sound a bit more artificial IMO, when playing the init preset, i always felt like the sound is "coming from a cave" a bit (can't describe it better), takes a bit to get used to it, but then it sounds really nice.

The new TAL a far more precise emulation than the TAL-Uno-62. Like fmr suggested, it nails the Juno in terms of sound and operation which is the appeal to me. Same reason I am so big on the Artsacoustic phaser.

These emu plugs are perfect recreations of specific hardware ITB, something I can never complain about. If you want to critique the new TAL, your only option is to A/B it with a real Juno 60 and look for shortcomings which you will not find and yes, the option exists to go beyond 6 voices.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:38 pm

jbuonacc wrote:
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:I always thought DIVA was based on an Alpha Juno and CS80, though it could do a convincing Juno 60 with the right settings, whereas Tyrell N6 was really his Juno. Either way, I was only kidding.
huh?

I reread that, and realize I meant to say Alpha Juno and Jupiter 8. Not CS80. I'm confusing my Japanese synth companies/models. Brain fart.

Either way, my point was that I never thought DIVA aimed to do Juno 60 sound and you would go to Tyrell for that kind of thing as it at least has the right architecture.

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:49 pm

Wow do I have the biggest case of deja vu i've had in a long time

TAL-U-NO-LX. Uber accurate Juno 60 emulation.