KVR Audio

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:17 pm

More brainstorm

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:34 pm

I tried it yesterday, and it is a great drum machine. It indeed needs some improvements workflow-wise and GUI-wise to make things easier and quicker, but the sound is good, very versatile, and i like all the templates (for sound generation, enveloppes, etc).

robenestobenz · Post by **robenestobenz** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:13 pm

Before I start to use this joy-inducing percussion machine all over new projects: since it's in beta, what's the amount of movement in the preset format? Is it pretty safe to assume patches made now will sound the same or even close in future versions?

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:42 pm

liquidsound wrote:More brainstorm

have to admit...the oval knobs give it a unique appearance

e-phonic · Post by **e-phonic** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:45 pm

I'll try to keep the presets compatible as much as possible.
There are no big changes planned for the synth engine, only the gui, so this shouldn't be a problem!

PJ

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:44 pm

layzer wrote:
liquidsound wrote:More brainstorm

have to admit...the oval knobs give it a unique appearance

Those are Distortion knobs

CapDan(X) · Post by **CapDan(X)** » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:01 pm

While we're still on it...

one version with (almost) all controls on one page (tone mod velocity fader is missing)

and a compact version (showing Effects section instead of Pan and Vol Knobs)

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:19 am

for people like me that still use 14" laptop, the compact version looks very good

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:32 am

CapDan(X) wrote:While we're still on it...

one version with (almost) all controls on one page (tone mod velocity fader is missing)

and a compact version (showing Effects section instead of Pan and Vol Knobs)

The One Version looks great. The knobs could become a bit bigger (and the "retro" knobs could get an other layout), and there should be less space, but I like it if everything (for each drum type) is one one page.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:06 am

e-phonic wrote:I'll try to keep the presets compatible as much as possible.
There are no big changes planned for the synth engine, only the gui, so this shouldn't be a problem!

PJ

No open and closed hats?

The sound is great. The only reason I'd pass on this purchase would be the lack of an open hat that's choked by the closed hat. A single hat articulation wouldn't suffice, nor would loading a second instance only to have an open hat that wouldn't choke.

Just my two cents...

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:14 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
e-phonic wrote:I'll try to keep the presets compatible as much as possible.
There are no big changes planned for the synth engine, only the gui, so this shouldn't be a problem!
PJ
No open and closed hats?
The sound is great. The only reason I'd pass on this purchase would be the lack of an open hat that's choked by the closed hat. A single hat articulation wouldn't suffice, nor would loading a second instance only to have an open hat that wouldn't choke.

Just my two cents...

Wouldn't it be possible to make an open hihat on the basis of an closed hihat by increasing the release time (and maybe by changing the pitch slightly and adjusting the filter)? Briefly said, by adjusting the envelopes?

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:19 am

Tricky-Loops wrote:
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
e-phonic wrote:I'll try to keep the presets compatible as much as possible.
There are no big changes planned for the synth engine, only the gui, so this shouldn't be a problem!
PJ
No open and closed hats?
The sound is great. The only reason I'd pass on this purchase would be the lack of an open hat that's choked by the closed hat. A single hat articulation wouldn't suffice, nor would loading a second instance only to have an open hat that wouldn't choke.

Just my two cents...
Wouldn't it be possible to make an open hihat on the basis of an closed hihat by increasing the release time (and maybe by changing the pitch slightly and adjusting the filter)?

But how would I program both where one chokes the other? Your method would lead to me having to do a ton of automation every time I wanted an open hat.

Even the 808 had both open and closed hats. In fact, the 808 had 16 drum sounds. And that was an analog machine released in 1981. Here we are 32 years later, and we're talking about a drum synth plugin that far fewer sounds. Just seems odd...

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:29 am

I'm just wondering -- there are 3 CB (=Cymbals?), but no Open Hihats? Isn't it possible to change the "slots", for example if I want to use 2 different Basedrums and 2 Snares, and 1 Open Hihat and 1 Closed Hihat and a Triangle?

todd_r · Post by **todd_r** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:31 am

Snares sounds amazing

Pity there's no built in sequencer though, any chance?

e-phonic · Post by **e-phonic** » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:39 am

The sound is great. The only reason I'd pass on this purchase would be the lack of an open hat that's choked by the closed hat.

I'm just wondering -- there are 3 CB (=Cymbals?), but no Open Hihats?

The envelopes have a 'hihat' mode. The higher the key the longer the sound. So the sounds will choke each other.
CB stands for cowbell... or cymbal, just a matter of what sound you create there!

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