Cubase 7.06 is out

[BERFAB]

Based on what a lot of folks are saying here, I had some trepidation about upgrading from 7.0.1. I had previously had some trouble with ASIO guard, but once I turned it off, no other problems.

Happy to say that I've installed 7.0.6 over the weekend, and it's running just dandy. I haven't really delved into the more complicated additions, but all the little touches (1 click, etc.) are quite nice.

If anyone cares, I'm running WIN7 x64 on a Dell XPS desktop.

Cheers
-B

[Compyfox]

I understand that anyone can get mad with non-fixed bugs, but ranting because of unattended FRs, come on!

FR's that several users filed. Not as many in the boards, but I'm sure a LOT in general. Namely the "Insert Handling".


Add to that the crap that was pulled with handling certain functioning modes and functions from EARLIER Cubsae versions, and how they work now (if they even do so)... then that is frustrating.


But yeah sure, let me fire up Pascal and I code something together in like one night.

[Muziksculp]

Hello Guillermo,

Thank You for the helpful feedback, and for answering my questions.

It's nice, and very helpful to have you on KVR forums.

I will report some feedback once I un-install, re-install, then update to Cubase 7.0.6 Hoping all goes well this time.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

[SODDI]

@SODDI:

You can set Cubase (or any other application) to run always as administrator.
-Right clic on top of the application icon.
-On the contextual menu go to properties.
-Select the compatibility tab.
-Under privilege level select: "Run this application as administrator".

You should lower the security level for the UAC (User account centre) for windows to avoid the annoying pop up every time you start the application.

This way you do not have to worry about starting cubase as admin every time you open the application

Best regards,
GN

I shouldn't have to do such a thing to run Cubase 7 in a a stable manner AT ALL.

I shouldn't have had to do 95% of the mucking around I've had to do with my computer system, sound card settings, physical and system MIDI set-up and Cubase settings. And compensating for your techs' bad advice.

An experienced Cubase user with an EXISTING Cubase set up should have been able to set up the Cubase 7 core installer, apply the current update, make a few minor adjustments and be good to go for good.

Instead I've spent as much time dicking around with Cubase 7's failings as actually working within it. This had made Cubase 7 A VERY BAD THING INDEED and a toxic working environment.

BTW, your fix doesn't work. I tried it. I need to manually toggle "run as administrator" to ensure that Cubase 7 shuts down on quit every time. Just like I need to make sure that my M-Audio keystation is on BEFORE starting Cubase if I want Cubase to recognize it as a MIDI device. That's a result of your tech's advice to pull my MOTU USB MIDI device and only use the Keystation's MIDI over USB functions. Screwed up my use of a second keyboard, too.

[Compyfox]

Actually, I also have to power up ALL USB MIDI devices prior to using Cubase. Else it won't find it.

Then again, I also had severe issues with M-Audio gear (except for the "integrated" Midisport series) on both Win and Mac. M-Audio was never really that great in the USB realm IMO (my experience, others might disagree).


Still, hoop-jumping should NOT be a part of using CUbase. And to this counts the crap Insert handling that, apparently, nobody wants to change since it's "just so f*cking awesome".

[fese]

Hello all,

Yes, we are reading, but regarding the inserts, they will remain as they are.

This is not good news. After three days testing, I think I can work around some of those inconsistencies and annoyances, and there are lots of cool features I like, but these invisible "mouse-over" buttons for "select/bypass" are just bad UI design, I'm sorry, it's a complete breach of the two most important Design rules "form follows function" and "keep it simple". I mean, this is a mixer console and not a web site.
Of course design is always also a subjective topic and one can get used to a lot, but there are some principles one should never ignore, like "Does this feature really help the user accomplish hist task?". Not the case for all those animations, gradients, fade-ins/outs, imho.
But if this is the way where Cubase is going in the future ("fancy flashy" instead of "no-nonsense work" design, please say so now, because then I'm definitely gonna pass...
Anyone still has by chance an unused update from C5 to C6.5 lying around???

[Muziksculp]

@ Guillermo Navarrete

Hi Guillermo,

I updated to Cubase 7.0.6 , all is looking good now !

Thanks,
Muziksculp

[I. Lehti]

sorry, no clue. I run x64 on Win 8 now exclusively. It's there, so it isn't a bug. But the Cubase installers are total shit balls. Lots of "uninstall everything" BS as suggestions when you get weird results from a point release. Followed by the "trash your preferences" recommendation. Cubase is a mess right now from an install/configure/admin standpoint. Once it's working it's been really stable for me. I won't bore you with my thoughts on the C7 mixer.

IMHO Steinberg need to develop some kind of "cleaning" tool for their installer. Could be a good idea.

Btw since i play with logical editor a lot (at company studio) i can confirm it's there and not greyed out. Definitely your setup/thing or something. I know it's not helping but at least we know it's down to your machine and not global bug..

Oh hi, thanks for taking the time, but it wasn't Logical EDITOR I was talking about, it was Logical Presets menu functions in the MIDI menu that are greyed out in the 64 bit version, but someone else suggested a fix that I'm going to try. Thanks.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[billcarroll]

Hi I am really confused now. I am about to install cubase for the first time on my iMac, on the laptop its just the demo I had installed and when I got my license continued to use that, and its been fine. I've just upgraded every version as its come out.

But I am reading about this installing and uninstalling.. Which shouldn't be necessary.. The way my mind works is I install a program, then install updates as needed. That's it. If something goes wrong where I am advised to uninstall and kee my preferences if required (what a hassle) then reinstall, in my eyes that means the company has made faulty installers.

So now on my iMac I will put the discs in right, then let it do its little download of 500mb, then if that's not the very latest version it downloads, I will then need to do the 7.06 patch. I then would presume when 7.07 comes out, and so forth, I can just simply install ontop as needed. Are you saying that I will need to uninstall and do all this again to have a stable system when each update comes out?

This is not abnormal. Pro Tools recommends an uninstall and reinstall with every update.

I personally haven't experienced an issue with Cubase 7 upgrades and from what I can tell Cubase 7 is working very well for the majority of users without an uninstall and reinstall.

[I. Lehti]

Thanks for your reply, but no matter what I do the main Midi menu function Logical Presets is greyed out, and it's never been greyed out by default before. I've even tried Edit Midi in Place in the Project window, I can select ten Midi events and a thousand notes and the menu function with all of it's sub-functions are still greyed out. I thought I would get it back with the .06 update but it's still like that in 64 bit. It's THERE in 32 bit. Now I'm wondering if I should re-download and re-install.

This might have to do with the folders for the presets.

First thing, with all installations always check that "install for all users" box. As I remember that's the way to go with Cubase installations.

Now you can try to fix the logic presets by moving them from "C:\Program Files\Steinberg\Cubase 7\Presets" to "C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Roaming\Steinberg\Cubase7_64\Presets".

Can Mr Navarrette confirm that this is the fix too? I'm not able to try it right now, but he says he's reading all the posts so maybe he can chime in on this problem with Logical Presets menu functions totally greyed out in .05 and .06 64 bit updates. But I WILL try this fix when I get to my computer in a couple of days. Thanks.

[Gonga]

Yes, for complex Windows software, it is not unusual to have to first uninstall before applying updates. One of the reasons is that buggy code which the updates address should be uninstalled. However, some companies' updates automatically uninstall first, and ideally this is what we would like to see. The quicker / cheaper alternative, and the one Steinberg employs, is to make life more difficult for the users and the techs in order to get the patches out more quickly / cheaply.

[SODDI]

Actually, I also have to power up ALL USB MIDI devices prior to using Cubase. Else it won't find it.

The little MOTU USB thingie powered up with the computer. Seems like a real luxury now. Did I mention that the second little Roland keyboard (the "sketching" keyboard) had that Roland-only pitch/mod paddle device? I love those things.

Still, hoop-jumping should NOT be a part of using CUbase. And to this counts the crap Insert handling that, apparently, nobody wants to change since it's "just so f*cking awesome".

I haven't chimed in on the inserts yet. Insert handling is not just unintuitive, it is counterintuitive. I don't really need the words "No Effect" to appear when I mouse over an obviously empty insert slot - I can clearly see that there is no effect there. The mouse over options are also less than optimum. What I do need is that big "e" for edit button on the face of the used insert slots so I can edit the effect. It's what I'm used to, it's what I look for on all applicable Cubase functions.

I think someone's, someone who is not necessarily a Cubase user, GUI design got out of hand and now Steinberg is trying to convince everyone that it's a virtue. They are committed to it. But is really very bad.

[SODDI]

sorry, no clue. I run x64 on Win 8 now exclusively. It's there, so it isn't a bug. But the Cubase installers are total shit balls. Lots of "uninstall everything" BS as suggestions when you get weird results from a point release. Followed by the "trash your preferences" recommendation. Cubase is a mess right now from an install/configure/admin standpoint. Once it's working it's been really stable for me. I won't bore you with my thoughts on the C7 mixer.

IMHO Steinberg need to develop some kind of "cleaning" tool for their installer. Could be a good idea.

Btw since i play with logical editor a lot (at company studio) i can confirm it's there and not greyed out. Definitely your setup/thing or something. I know it's not helping but at least we know it's down to your machine and not global bug..

Oh hi, thanks for taking the time, but it wasn't Logical EDITOR I was talking about, it was Logical Presets menu functions in the MIDI menu that are greyed out in the 64 bit version, but someone else suggested a fix that I'm going to try. Thanks.

It's probably redundant of me to mention this, but I had to actually highlight a MIDI track for the Logical Presets to show up in the menu un-greyed out.

[Compyfox]

I think someone's, someone who is not necessarily a Cubase user, GUI design got out of hand and now Steinberg is trying to convince everyone that it's a virtue. They are committed to it. But is really very bad.

Then it's time that the community stomps in and says (unified):
STOP THIS NONSENSE!


There will be a wall to run into either way.