KVR Audio

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:10 pm

asksol wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote: And when you assign e.g. 2 LFOs to let's say pitch or filter cutoff, their output values can be maximized, multiplied, minimized or added, LFO shapes can also be modulated by other LFOs or envelopes or Macros, all of this modulate-anything-with-everything-concept is a powerful new addition to Iris 2. But that's about it.
Yeah, that's nice and all, but what interesting targets are there to actually modulate?
The marketing video touts "dynamic tremolo", "expressive vibratos", and "radical filter sweeps", but
if you want to do something interesting to the sound it seems you have to manipulate the sample offline.

I agree, I was just happy to have found something of interest in v2, so I mentioned it. I couldn't be more under whelmed by this nothinggrade.

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:12 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:And the x/y-pad has been dropped totally
Wow another downgrade - I use that a lot - what planet are they on?

In this case I don't miss them. But love to see that there are way more modulation possibilities. Overall there are way more features than before.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:24 pm

deastman wrote:I must say I'm extremely disappointed that time stretching wasn't improved, considering how obvious and glaring an issue it was to anyone who spent five minutes with v1. I'm also disappointed that there were never any updates to v1 at all... just a couple of years of silence and now another $99 out the door. I suppose I'll upgrade, but it's rather underwhelming after such a long wait.

this is what i said, they didnt improve v1 at all! they just wanna rip customers off! sorry but what brings v2 new? laughable! the upgradeprice? laughable! no timestretch feature? new modulators? lol? new filters? i hope not many people will support their upgrade prices..... otherwise they can continue this shit!

izotope gets so unsympathic with their prices and features, i hope Alchemy 2 will bomb them away! please please come and release Alchemy 2 with the spectral easy features + more and mixed granular synthesis and time stretching and more! wooohoooooooo gogo camelaudio!

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:29 pm

i sold iris because it lacked all the things they added in V2. shame.. V2 is what it should've been all along.

oh well. nice it's getting all the features it deserves. nice sounding synth.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:30 pm

asksol · Post by **asksol** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:34 pm

Sampleconstruct, your comment is definitely valuable. I was kind of hoping you could show me something more to use the LFOs on considering your experience with the software

The izotope site says:
"Or modulate more than one hundred parameters through a simple, single-click-and-drop assignment system."

We also have the effects of course, and the panning, so I guess that is combining the 4 samples.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:43 pm

I'm glad the Iris underwhelmed me from the start. Seriously that timestretching was terrible. But $99 for this upgrade, I'd be pissed! It's been out, what, a couple years and this is the big V2? Man, when you think about what a company like Camel Audio is probably cooking up for their V2 and the fact that their upgrade will almost certainly be this price or less, I can't help but face-palm for Izotope.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:50 pm

asksol wrote:Sampleconstruct, your comment is definitely valuable. I was kind of hoping you could show me something more to use the LFOs on considering your experience with the software

The izotope site says:
"Or modulate more than one hundred parameters through a simple, single-click-and-drop assignment system."

We also have the effects of course, and the panning, so I guess that is combining the 4 samples.

Sure, I can show you once I've made some videos with v2, but currently I'm less than motivated to do so. The emperors new clothes, more icing on the same old cake, which still tastes nice, but 2.5+ years for a bit of modulation, hmmm. At the core of the sound generation absolutely nothing, nada, niente, rien has changed. And adding some basic LP/HP filters named New York and Tokyo doesn't really help anybody.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:52 pm

The AudioDeluxe Upgrade Price is a bit weird:

iZotope Iris 2 $199.00
Coupon: IZO-IRIS2-UPGRADE -$81.00
Coupon: FALL2014 -$30.01

Subtotal: $87.99

So the actual upgrade price I was quoted (without the fall coupon) is: $199 - 81 = $118

BTW: It comes with 11 GB of samples according to the Video I posted above.

wasi · Post by **wasi** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:53 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:I'm glad the Iris underwhelmed me from the start. Seriously that timestretching was terrible. But $99 for this upgrade, I'd be pissed! It's been out, what, a couple years and this is the big V2? Man, when you think about what a company like Camel Audio is probably cooking up for their V2 and the fact that their upgrade will almost certainly be this price or less, I can't help but face-palm for Izotope.

They got some balls, yeah. What did they add even, aside from modulation? They must be joking.

Bonux XP though for them being able to rehash their own soundsets now because they're incompatible with Iris 2.

beatdriver408 · Post by **beatdriver408** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:56 pm

I demo'd Iris 1, and decided the lack of time stretch was a dealbreaker. Not buying Iris 2 for the same reason.

bltpyro · Post by **bltpyro** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:59 pm

I didn't get 1 for the lack of what makes Iris unique, the spectral drawing tools. I wish they had more brush sizes, brush shapes, soft brushes instead of simply on or off, etc. Since nothing changed in this one as far as the spectral editing goes, I will wait for a better tool.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:11 pm

I don't know what it is with iZotope lately.. it's like they went from being cool, down to earth people who respect their customers to a giant corporation that doesn't give a f**k.

RX 4 "update", Ozone 6 "update" and now this. I already said I'm done with iZotope due to the RX 4 fiasco, this just confirmed that I've made the right choice.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:19 pm

bltpyro wrote:I didn't get 1 for the lack of what makes Iris unique, the spectral drawing tools. I wish they had more brush sizes, brush shapes, soft brushes instead of simply on or off, etc. Since nothing changed in this one as far as the spectral editing goes, I will wait for a better tool.

New to this Iris. I am intrigued in the possibilities but from the current discussion Iris could have been much more with a few not terribly difficult to implement features. Too bad! This is making my purchase of Iris very difficult.

Wow no soft around the edge brush meaning fade in into the audio blob.
Are they called blobs as in Melodyne?

rustman · Post by **rustman** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:25 pm

I may be hard-headed, but after blindly buying the Ozone 6 downgrade, I've pretty much decided that I would be compromizing my principals if I ever spent another cent with them. I've enjoyed Iris 1 with all of the soundset expansions. I would have been excited about 2 (like I was about Ozone 6), but fool me once...

<searching for the middle finger smiley.....>