Who's getting the new Wave Alchemy Revolution Drum machine?

[tehlord]

Could somebody explain the Ableton Live preset/drum rack integration? It was suggested at Gearslutz that this was a thing and I downloaded the demo last night, but there are no Live presets there.

Apparently the drum rack preset is fed from Kontakt/Player, so I assume I'd sequence it like I usually would from Live, but controls and automation still occur within the Kontakt plugin?

The drum rack is in the full version, not the demo. In the full version the drum rack is located in the extras folder. You just take that file and drag it into a track in ableton and from there you can save it, so it saves in your user library. I created a drum rack that has all drum sounds routed to individual outputs , but while using komplete kontrol instead of kontakt, since I use an ableton push with a komplete keyboard. If anybody wants that file let me know.

I do wish that all the drum controls were mapped out for ableton push as well, similar to how they are done for komplete/maschine. This way I could tweak drum sounds (decay, etc) on the push.

With this style of set up using a single instrument that is unfortunately not possible in Ableton, however once there are single instrument versions of the drum modules, then it will be possible because each drum pad will have its own instrument, no fancy audio and midi routing required. And thankfully they've stated that they are going to be providing this in an update, which is awesome.

Aha that's awesome. Thanks for the heads up.

[flonky]

Is it possible to get an multiple output kit when Revolution is loaded into Komplete Kontrol?
I don't get it to work in Logic Pro X.
I loaded the 16 stereo output version of Komplete Kontrol, set up the outputs (like in Kontakt), but Revolution let me only choose "Master".
Any idea?

[Sounds Outside]

Is it possible to get an multiple output kit when Revolution is loaded into Komplete Kontrol?
I don't get it to work in Logic Pro X.
I loaded the 16 stereo output version of Komplete Kontrol, set up the outputs (like in Kontakt), but Revolution let me only choose "Master".
Any idea?

Hi flonky. Komplete Kontrol should have no problem using Revolution with multiple outputs. In fact this is how I use Revolution personally and what I did for the videos on the Wave Alchemy website. Likely the issue is that after assigning the outputs you need to restart the Kontakt engine. The easiest way to do this is to save the configuration as a patch inside a track stack. From there you can reload it on a new track and all the outputs should appear. If it doesn't work let me know and I'll be happy to work this out with you in more detail.

[imagine2015]

The range of keys used for playing the voices of Revolution is a bit unusual for me. I would like to have it as follows : C1 - BD 1, C#1 - BD 2, D1 - SD1, D#1 - SD2, etc.

Is it possible to remap this in Revolution?

I also have another question. The various samples of 808 that I usually use in my productions can have much longer decay that the maximum decay settings in the RV-808 module. Do those 'long' decay bass drum hits come from some modded versions of 808 or also the original 808 can produce really much longer decay that the Revolution can provide?

[jbuonacc]

... The various samples of 808 that I usually use in my productions can have much longer decay that the maximum decay settings in the RV-808 module. Do those 'long' decay bass drum hits come from some modded versions of 808 or also the original 808 can produce really much longer decay that the Revolution can provide?

to extend your 808 BD decays in 'REVOLUTION', use the Transient Shaper in the fx section and increase the Sustain on that. also, there are two separate sets of TR-808 samples in 'REVOLUTION', the second 808 BD has a bit more decay than the first.

[imagine2015]

to extend your 808 BD decays in 'REVOLUTION', use the Transient Shaper in the fx section and increase the Sustain on that. also, there are two separate sets of TR-808 samples in 'REVOLUTION', the second 808 BD has a bit more decay than the first.

Thanks! However I don't know how to select the second 808 BD. All I see is Bass Drum 1 on the right of the module.

[jbuonacc]

... Thanks! However I don't know how to select the second 808 BD. All I see is Bass Drum 1 on the right of the module.

click on the "Machine" button, between the "Decay" and "Character" knobs.

[imagine2015]

... Thanks! However I don't know how to select the second 808 BD. All I see is Bass Drum 1 on the right of the module.

click on the "Machine" button, between the "Decay" and "Character" knobs.

Thanks! Found it.

[imagine2015]

It would be really handy to have a list of available modules for each slot in the manual.

I am mindblown by the quality of this instrument, after long search (and believe me I tried and used in my production almost every major plugin out there) I finally found a drum plugin that I am comfortable to work with, sounds fabulous and one can dial unique sound within minutes! The combination of shaper, eq and compressor plus incredible reverbs / plates is the bomb.

Great work, Wave Alchemy!

[imagine2015]

* double post *

[wave alchemy]

It would be really handy to have a list of available modules for each slot in the manual.

I am mindblown by the quality of this instrument, after long search (and believe me I tried and used in my production almost every major plugin out there) I finally found a drum plugin that I am comfortable to work with, sounds fabulous and one can dial unique sound within minutes! The combination of shaper, eq and compressor plus incredible reverbs / plates is the bomb.

Great work, Wave Alchemy!

Thank you very much for the extremely kind words. It is very nice to hear such positive feedback from customers such as yourself - it makes the many months of development time and hard work very much worth it

I hope you continue to enjoy Revolution!

I will look at updating the manual in regards to giving the exact details of each drum voice / module. In the mean time, if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!

[Echoes in the Attic]

I recently bought it and have one question:
I see that when my DAW sequencer is running and I hit play in Revolution, it will wait for the next beat so as to sync up, and when I hit stop in my DAW, Revolution stops too (and deactivates the play button). But then when I hit play in the DAW, Revolution doesn't start again unless it receives another note to trigger the sequence or you press the play button again. It would be cool if there was a sort of latch mode for play where starting the sequencer in your DAW started the Revolution pattern too. It's useful before you've started actually putting in midi notes. Or is there a mode like this already and I haven't found it? Most other drum machines work this way I think.

While I'm at it, one other thing for the wish list:
It would be cool if there were a version that didn't have specific slots for specific drums and freely let you load any drum from any machine. For example if I want to load both the low tom from the 909 and the low tom from the 808, I can't right? Since there is one slot that loads the low tom? For that matter I might want all three toms from the 909 and a couple toms from the 808, who knows. Would be cool to have that freedom.

Thanks!

[jbuonacc]

I recently bought it and have one question:
I see that when my DAW sequencer is running and I hit play in Revolution, it will wait for the next beat so as to sync up, and when I hit stop in my DAW, Revolution stops too (and deactivates the play button). But then when I hit play in the DAW, Revolution doesn't start again unless it receives another note to trigger the sequence or you press the play button again. It would be cool if there was a sort of latch mode for play where starting the sequencer in your DAW started the Revolution pattern too. It's useful before you've started actually putting in midi notes. Or is there a mode like this already and I haven't found it? Most other drum machines work this way I think.

?? there's a little "host sync" button to the left of the Play button. with that engaged the sequencer starts/stops with host playback.

It would be cool if there were a version that didn't have specific slots for specific drums and freely let you load any drum from any machine. For example if I want to load both the low tom from the 909 and the low tom from the 808, I can't right? Since there is one slot that loads the low tom?

all the Toms are identical, just the default pitch setting is different. this really isn't "correct", and i've mentioned a solution (a bit long-winded, i'll try to post it some time), but i'm not sure that it'll change.

EDIT: some thoughts on the Toms in 'REVOLUTION' (from my post on the GS forum)...

i guess one point that i'll mention regarding the DX Toms though... the DX features three toms that are set at specific pitch intervals and all tune up/down uniformly by the same amount. that's what threw me the first time i loaded the three DX Toms in 'Digital Revolution', i said to myself "there's no way that they're set to those pitches on the real DX". i don't know if something like this is worth your time (or even if every user would want this), but if you can actually load three "different" DX Toms inside 'REVOLUTION' it might not be a bad idea to have each of these reference a different range of samples which match the actual tuning ranges of the DX HI, MID, and LOW Toms. this way setting each to the same tuning (center knob position for example) would match the intervals that they're set to on the actual DX. pitching all of them down or up by the same amount would retain this pitch interval relationship between them. it wouldn't even require any more sampling, just telling each DX Tom "module" which set of samples to play back. haven't counted how many actual pitch settings there are per tom, maybe 16? actually, this would only work if you have it set up with three "different" DX Toms which are chosen with Voice Select. i assumed it was something like this because of how it was done in 'Digital Revolution', with a different pitch setting on each DX Tom depending on which Tom slot (1, 2, 3) it was loaded into. not sure if in 'REVOLUTION' the "same" DX Tom gets loaded up in each of the three Tom slots and then the user has to pitch it to whatever they want.

again, not sure if it's worth your time, but i think that sort of attention to detail would be beneficial. as it is now (at least with 'Digital Revolution') i don't think too many people would manage to get the tuning relationship to be "correct" between the three DX Toms. maybe some/most people don't care about authenticity though, and just want to tune each drum however they like.

similar thoughts on the LinnDrum and Drum-Traks Toms (and whichever others had toms which could be tuned)... while those can be pitched independently from one another, each has its own specific min/max tuning range.

For that matter I might want all three toms from the 909 and a couple toms from the 808, who knows. Would be cool to have that freedom.

can't help with that, and they've already shot down freely assignable slots. just load another instance, i guess? or if they're from one of the digital drum machines, just use any old samples/sampler.

... why the hell would you want so many Toms in one kit though?

[Sounds Outside]

Hi Echoes in the Attic!

I'm happy to report both of these features are already possible and I will explain them in more detail below ...

I recently bought it and have one question:
I see that when my DAW sequencer is running and I hit play in Revolution, it will wait for the next beat so as to sync up, and when I hit stop in my DAW, Revolution stops too (and deactivates the play button). But then when I hit play in the DAW, Revolution doesn't start again unless it receives another note to trigger the sequence or you press the play button again. It would be cool if there was a sort of latch mode for play where starting the sequencer in your DAW started the Revolution pattern too. It's useful before you've started actually putting in midi notes. Or is there a mode like this already and I haven't found it? Most other drum machines work this way I think.

Revolution features a sync play button. When this is enabled pressing playing in your DAW will automatically start play in Revolution. This is located at the bottom left next to the play button.

While I'm at it, one other thing for the wish list:
It would be cool if there were a version that didn't have specific slots for specific drums and freely let you load any drum from any machine. For example if I want to load both the low tom from the 909 and the low tom from the 808, I can't right? Since there is one slot that loads the low tom? For that matter I might want all three toms from the 909 and a couple toms from the 808, who knows. Would be cool to have that freedom.

Thanks!

This is also possible. If you click the name of the Tom Drum (where it says Low Tom) above image of the drum a drop down menu will appear and let you set it to any of the three toms. This is also possible for Cymbals and Percussion.

[Echoes in the Attic]

Hi Echoes in the Attic!

I'm happy to report both of these features are already possible and I will explain them in more detail below ...

I recently bought it and have one question:
I see that when my DAW sequencer is running and I hit play in Revolution, it will wait for the next beat so as to sync up, and when I hit stop in my DAW, Revolution stops too (and deactivates the play button). But then when I hit play in the DAW, Revolution doesn't start again unless it receives another note to trigger the sequence or you press the play button again. It would be cool if there was a sort of latch mode for play where starting the sequencer in your DAW started the Revolution pattern too. It's useful before you've started actually putting in midi notes. Or is there a mode like this already and I haven't found it? Most other drum machines work this way I think.

Revolution features a sync play button. When this is enabled pressing playing in your DAW will automatically start play in Revolution. This is located at the bottom left next to the play button.

Oh weird I tried this, thinking it might do that, and for some reason I thought it wasn't working that way. Maybe I had an empty pattern loaded or something, but I gave up too fast. Thanks!

While I'm at it, one other thing for the wish list:
It would be cool if there were a version that didn't have specific slots for specific drums and freely let you load any drum from any machine. For example if I want to load both the low tom from the 909 and the low tom from the 808, I can't right? Since there is one slot that loads the low tom? For that matter I might want all three toms from the 909 and a couple toms from the 808, who knows. Would be cool to have that freedom.

Thanks!

This is also possible. If you click the name of the Tom Drum (where it says Low Tom) above image of the drum a drop down menu will appear and let you set it to any of the three toms. This is also possible for Cymbals and Percussion.

Got it, thanks. Still would be nice to be able to load anything in any slot, but I guess that will be possible once you release the individual instruments and we can mix and match as many as we like in another sequencer.