Behringer D Synth - Full Analog, Eurorack compatible, No Keys, 400$

[whyterabbyt]

Frankly, modular synths in general limit bold moves which is why semi-modular "instruments" are often a better choice.

Offtopic, slightly, and me interjecting rudely, but could you explain what you mean by 'bold moves' ?

[ghettosynth]

Frankly, modular synths in general limit bold moves which is why semi-modular "instruments" are often a better choice.

Offtopic, slightly, and me interjecting rudely, but could you explain what you mean by 'bold moves' ?

Just very quick moves that you can do when you don't have to think where a knob is. there's no reason that you can't do this with a modular if you leave everything in the same place, but people seldom do that.

Not really any different than developing muscle memory for typing, or playing the piano really.

[whyterabbyt]

Frankly, modular synths in general limit bold moves which is why semi-modular "instruments" are often a better choice.

Offtopic, slightly, and me interjecting rudely, but could you explain what you mean by 'bold moves' ?

Just very quick moves that you can do when you don't have to think where a knob is. there's no reason that you can't do this with a modular if you leave everything in the same place, but people seldom do that.

Not really any different than developing muscle memory for typing, or playing the piano really.

Ah, in performance. :doh: Sorry, I just couldnt put a context to it.

Commenting on that, though, that's always been in my head what Euro-format skiffs are 'for'. If that's what someone needs, then build a fixed layout of 'performance controller' modules that works, and leverage that.

[ghettosynth]

Frankly, modular synths in general limit bold moves which is why semi-modular "instruments" are often a better choice.

Offtopic, slightly, and me interjecting rudely, but could you explain what you mean by 'bold moves' ?

Just very quick moves that you can do when you don't have to think where a knob is. there's no reason that you can't do this with a modular if you leave everything in the same place, but people seldom do that.

Not really any different than developing muscle memory for typing, or playing the piano really.

Ah, in performance. :doh: Sorry, I just couldnt put a context to it.

Commenting on that, though, that's always been in my head what Euro-format skiffs are 'for'. If that's what someone needs, then build a fixed layout of 'performance controller' modules that works, and leverage that.

No doubt, but, the problem is that the knobs are often so close together that it's much harder to do things quickly. I don't do it anymore but I used to play a live techno set with 909/101/system 100/Arp 1613/MKS50 and a few other things. Having things spaced out was definitely a factor. Even the 909 knobs are really just a little too close together. The SH101 is fantastic for live performance as are the System 100 model 102 expanders.

[whyterabbyt]

No doubt, but, the problem is that the knobs are often so close together that it's much harder to do things quickly.

You know that's a potential product market, then, right? double-height (ie single 6U row) skiffs with a range of well-spaced big fat 5U-style knobs and sliders, but 3.5mm jacks and Euro voltages...

[ghettosynth]

No doubt, but, the problem is that the knobs are often so close together that it's much harder to do things quickly.

You know that's a potential product market, then, right? double-height (ie single 6U row) skiffs with a range of well-spaced big fat 5U-style knobs and sliders, but 3.5mm jacks and Euro voltages...

Perhaps, it's also possible that if people saw the need they might have gone 5U in the first place. Of course, that's so much less of an option these days, even the traditional 5U guys have gone into eurorack, e.g. Synthtech.

[foosnark]

I use Eurorack stuff in a studio, and don't intend to perform live with it. While there are certainly some modules that are too cramped for comfort or have poor panel layout (hey there, WMD Synchrodyne!), overall the size absolutely is a benefit. We don't all have unlimited space for giant walls of gear, and I appreciate being able to fit so much functionality and diversity into one rack.

IMHO modular synthesis as live performance isn't like other live performance -- it's more like watching a sculptor or painter as performance art. The equipment/techniques and results are constrained by the need to keep the whole process entertaining.

[db3]

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2017/04/ ... nd-listen/

[transmetropolitan]

As a product demonstration that was pretty hopeless, however definitely interesting to see a working prototype.

If they get this right I'll definitely buy one, though I'm more interested in feedback around how this works as a performance instrument vs Moog rather than the inevitable focus on sonic minutiae.

[DJ Warmonger]

Synth Anatomy demo is much better:



Actually pretty nice synth for 399 USD, good job!

[Wormhelmet]

The youtube comments are pretty predictable.

Waiting until its finished and someone does a (real) side by side

You could, of course, use the sound from just the true minimoog for both synths and fake play the Behringer and you would still get people commenting that the Behringer isn't even close.

Moog purists and Behringer haters are only going to say one thing regardless of the real output.

Right now I haven't heard enough.

[olikana]

that video is just as bad, another terrible demoer.
the people demoing it are the ones making it sound shite. for starters lower that sustain on the filter env. jeez.

[NEOREV]

Finally some decent audio...

[idfpower]

Sounds nice. As expected. Not my cup of tea, though.

[transmetropolitan]

I think it does sound good.

The form factor is a bit smaller than I expected. I can see the benefits, however it strikes me that this will make it in use quite a different instrument from a Moog Model D.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the eurorack/cv integration?

Looks more than originally planned but a LOT less than something like Moog Mother 32.