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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:36 pm

flakes2 wrote:Urs:
why don't you simply move on? This thread is not about you or your products.
Why don't you respect the creative content produced by your competitors?
Would you be happy if your synth's graphics are ripped and photoshoped by a Chinese company?
Would you be happy if someone samples and clones a Song you have created and makes money with it?

I asked a friendly question. On topic. Valid. Just asking about a feature of your product that *you* advertise.

You are the one who's insinuating wrong doing on no grounds. You are the one who condescends. Chill out man.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:38 pm

Oh dear.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:43 pm

flakes2 wrote:Urs:
why don't you simply move on? This thread is not about you or your products.
Why don't you respect the creative content produced by your competitors?
Would you be happy if your synth's graphics are ripped and photoshoped by a Chinese company?
Would you be happy if someone samples and clones a Song you have created and makes money with it?

You've completely misunderstood the question, it was never about 'ripping' the existing Tone2 created content, only whether it could be used as a tool for generating original wavetables etc (ie based on imported user samples) that can then be used in other compatible products (as Serum can).

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:19 pm

Urs wrote:
flakes2 wrote:Urs:
why don't you simply move on? This thread is not about you or your products.
Why don't you respect the creative content produced by your competitors?
Would you be happy if your synth's graphics are ripped and photoshoped by a Chinese company?
Would you be happy if someone samples and clones a Song you have created and makes money with it?
I asked a friendly question. On topic. Valid. Just asking about a feature of your product that *you* advertise.

You are the one who's insinuating wrong doing on no grounds. You are the one who condescends. Chill out man.

What makes you think user 'flakes 2' is the developer of tone2 products ?

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:28 pm

flakes2 wrote:Urs:
why don't you simply move on? This thread is not about you or your products.
Why don't you respect the creative content produced by your competitors?
Would you be happy if your synth's graphics are ripped and photoshoped by a Chinese company?
Would you be happy if someone samples and clones a Song you have created and makes money with it?

.. dude, wtf? How on earth does a mind jump to a conclusion like this??

flakes2 · Post by **flakes2** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:01 pm

You will need to read the whole thread to understand it.

To sum it up:
Urs has written in this thread that he wants to buy Gladiator. He considered to rip Gladiator's oscillators with the 'export to wavetable feature'. He asked if the license agreement covers this. Urs wants to use the sound produced by the Gladiator oscillators in an own, upcoming product (a wavetable synthesizer?).

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:06 pm

No, Urs never wanted to rip Gladiator's oscillators for his product, at all. That's just in your mind.

Urs wrote:We don't have any plans to "rip or sample" anyone's work, but we're checking out all solutions available on the market. We simply wish to add a comprehensive list of great and *compatible* waveform editors to an upcoming product, simply so sound designers can use the best tools available.

So yeah. Chill?

tonedef71 · Post by **tonedef71** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:15 pm

The new export feature of Gladiator 3 exports a WAV file that is the full osc1/2 chain. The exported WAV can be imported into Icarus and probably other audio software as well (I have only tried it out with Icarus, so far).

flakes2 · Post by **flakes2** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:17 pm

[quote="EvilDragon"]No, Urs never wanted to rip Gladiator's oscillators for his product, at all. That's just in your mind.

[quote="Urs"][u]We don't have any plans to "rip or sample" anyone's work[/u], but we're checking out all solutions available on the market. [b]We simply wish to add a comprehensive list of great and *compatible* waveform editors to an upcoming product, simply so sound designers can use the best tools available.[/b][/quote]

So yeah. Chill?[/quote]

Urs wrote: "Maybe we buy some. Does anyone know if .wav exported from Gladiator or Icarus can be used & shipped with other products"

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:19 pm

Maybe he wanted to see how well it works? To see if he could recommend it.
Would be insincere for him to recommend Gladiator and Icarus as possible wave editors for this new product without even testing how well it will work with this new product, no?
Ironically was tone2 eula allowable of what he wanted, he would have advertised gladiator and icarus to u-he products sound designers.

rsp

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:19 pm

flakes2 wrote:You will need to read the whole thread to understand it.

To sum it up:
Urs has written in this thread that he wants to buy Gladiator. He considered to rip Gladiator's oscillators with the 'export to wavetable feature'. He asked if the license agreement covers this. Urs wants to use the sound produced by the Gladiator oscillators in an own, upcoming product (a wavetable synthesizer?).

I DID read the whole thread.. and I actually understand it. YOU are the one that is missing the point and jumping to very weird conclusions.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:21 pm

flakes2 wrote:Urs wrote: "Maybe we buy some. Does anyone know if .wav exported from Gladiator or Icarus can be used & shipped with other products"

And where exactly does this state that we wish to use the content that comes with those products?

What you dare to insinuate here is beyond belief.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:21 pm

flakes2 wrote: Urs wrote: "Maybe we buy some. Does anyone know if .wav exported from Gladiator or Icarus can be used & shipped with other products"

.. and then he proceeded to specify very clearly what he meant by that sentence, which you completely disregarded it seems.

Dude, seriosly. Paranoid much?

flakes2 · Post by **flakes2** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:29 pm

[quote="Urs"][quote="flakes2"]Urs wrote: "Maybe we buy some. Does anyone know if .wav exported from Gladiator or Icarus can be used & shipped with other products"[/quote]
And where exactly does this state that we wish to use the content that comes with those products?

What you dare to insinuate here is beyond belief.[/quote]

Urs wrote: "do Tone2 somehow retain some kind of copyright?"

flakes2 · Post by **flakes2** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:30 pm

If you do not plan to include Gladiator's content why do you ask about copyright?

Tone2 Gladiator 3 (public beta)