KVR Audio

dermichl · Post by **dermichl** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:44 am

Yorrrrrr wrote:The price...

It's on permanent discount i'd say.

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:44 pm

The price for hobbyists - that's it.

digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:44 pm

It may be a low price....

But it's a high quality DAW

enroe · Post by **enroe** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:07 am

C-note wrote:The price for hobbyists - that's it.

No - that's not a category.

Why? Because we have have a free OS (Linux) - used by professionals.
We have also free Plugins (e.g. Variety of Soungs), which
are excellent. We have very good free or very low priced solutions
also on other sectors of software, so that price cannot be a category
considering the pure function of a software.

So here the question was and is: "What's so special about reaper
concerning functionality and ergonomy - independent of any
finances"?

zenophilix · Post by **zenophilix** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:52 am

enroe wrote:
C-note wrote:The price for hobbyists - that's it.
No - that's not a category.

Why? Because we have have a free OS (Linux) - used by professionals.
We have also free Plugins (e.g. Variety of Soungs), which
are excellent. We have very good free or very low priced solutions
also on other sectors of software, so that price cannot be a category
considering the pure function of a software.

So here the question was and is: "What's so special about reaper
concerning functionality and ergonomy - independent of any
finances"?

This. And honestly, I can't say I was super impressed back when I tried Reaper, so I'm honestly curious what attracts people to it apart from the price. Because if it was just the price, everyone would be using MuLab or Podium.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:18 am

Flexibility is one important thing with which it attracts people. Probably the most important, apart from generally lean and efficient, stable code, and extremely great VST performance due to anticipative processing.

woggle · Post by **woggle** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:20 am

the drag and drop routing is pretty good - not sure if others have such a good system. Also the spatial audio is normally seen as the best available for those who need flexible multi speaker configurations

(I dont get he stability thing so much though - I can crash or hang Reaper pretty easily with Kontakt or Hypercyclic for example)

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:26 am

That's a fault of plugin, then, not host, though. And even then, you can firewall plugins by hosting them in dedicated processes, so when they crash, they don't take down Reaper with them...

woggle · Post by **woggle** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:27 am

EvilDragon wrote:That's a fault of plugin, then, not host, though. And even then, you can firewall plugins by hosting them in dedicated processes, so when they crash, they don't take down Reaper with them...

I run Kontakt in a dedicated process, have done for ages, and it still hangs Reaper regularly. I know this is unusual, but it is my experience

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:34 am

If you use "embed plugin GUI" option, then it's not completely detached from the Reaper process...

woggle · Post by **woggle** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:35 am

EvilDragon wrote:If you use "embed plugin GUI" option, then it's not completely detached from the Reaper process...

sadly I dont use that option either - appreciate your help though

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:56 am

Are you sticking to a particular version of Kontakt?

Must say I've had stable Kontakt ever since version 5.5.0... Not a single crash or a hang.

woggle · Post by **woggle** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:58 am

EvilDragon wrote:Are you sticking to a particular version of Kontakt?

Must say I've had stable Kontakt ever since version 5.5.0... Not a single crash.

always up to date and have always had problems with Reaper and Kontakt since the earliest days. Still usable and I'm careful to save as I go

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:02 am

Really weird. Kontakt was quite crash-prone in the early v5 days, but it got a lot more stable around 5.4-5.5...

(That said, I noticed some really weird behavior with Kontakt if Preferences->Audio->Playback->[ ] Run FX when stopped option is disabled...)

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:09 am

zenophilix wrote:This. And honestly, I can't say I was super impressed back when I tried Reaper, so I'm honestly curious what attracts people to it apart from the price. Because if it was just the price, everyone would be using MuLab or Podium.

Correct me if I'm wrong but neither of those have timestretch capabilities for audio and are, imo, generally not really up to it for serious audio work.

What's so special about Reaper?