Fabfilter Twin 3 --Released Feb. 7th

[Rivertropic]

What do you mean with no FM? There’s no way to do FM between the oscillators? Neither with drag and drop modulations?? If it’s the case this is at least disappointing.

[exmatproton]

What do you mean with no FM? There’s no way to do FM between the oscillators? Neither with drag and drop modulations?? If it’s the case this is at least disappointing.

yep. no fm

[PieBerger]

I'll try the demo and if it sounds nice and is fun to program, I'll grab it on sale in a few months' time. On paper it's not too exciting; no FM/PM, no variable phase angle (just on/off reset like v2) [would have liked this for psytrance bass], monophonic FX only and still no filter drive, so it's not an instabuy for me. Four filters is pretty interesting though!

[Ploki]

What do you mean with no FM? There’s no way to do FM between the oscillators? Neither with drag and drop modulations?? If it’s the case this is at least disappointing.

I mean, the LFO's go up to 500Hz so you COULD technically keytrack LFO (to a point) and modulate OSC freq with that.
You can also make the LFO a Saw, Tri, Square or Sine.

I tried it and it works and it's interesting. But it's obviously not straight up FM.

[exmatproton]

What do you mean with no FM? There’s no way to do FM between the oscillators? Neither with drag and drop modulations?? If it’s the case this is at least disappointing.

I mean, the LFO's go up to 500Hz so you COULD technically keytrack LFO (to a point) and modulate OSC freq with that.
You can also make the LFO a Saw, Tri, Square or Sine.

I tried it and it works and it's interesting. But it's obviously not straight up FM.

Yeah, tried that. One can get some extra timbre out of that.
Far from ideal though.

I dunno..for this price, i would expect way more control over the fx, the osc's and filters. Bummer

[Boy Wonder]

I'll try the demo and if it sounds nice and is fun to program, I'll grab it on sale in a few months' time. On paper it's not too exciting; no FM/PM, no variable phase angle (just on/off reset like v2) [would have liked this for psytrance bass], monophonic FX only and still no filter drive, so it's not an instabuy for me. Four filters is pretty interesting though!

What?! No variable phase angle? Delete.

[PieBerger]

What do you mean with no FM? There’s no way to do FM between the oscillators? Neither with drag and drop modulations?? If it’s the case this is at least disappointing.

I mean, the LFO's go up to 500Hz so you COULD technically keytrack LFO (to a point) and modulate OSC freq with that.
You can also make the LFO a Saw, Tri, Square or Sine.

I tried it and it works and it's interesting. But it's obviously not straight up FM.

That's OK for bells and other clangorous sounds, but it's useless for tonal stuff. Properly implemented TZFM/PM would have been a nice addition.

[Ploki]

I'll try the demo and if it sounds nice and is fun to program, I'll grab it on sale in a few months' time. On paper it's not too exciting; no FM/PM, no variable phase angle (just on/off reset like v2) [would have liked this for psytrance bass], monophonic FX only and still no filter drive, so it's not an instabuy for me. Four filters is pretty interesting though!

What?! No variable phase angle? Delete.

It has built in analogue drift so variable phase angle is irrelevant because two OSC drift out of sync anyway.

But yeah, i too would've wished for option to disable analogue drift + have variable phase angle.

THIS IS WHY I GO BACK TO HIVE2 EVERYTIME

It's still a very interesting synth.

What do you mean with no FM? There’s no way to do FM between the oscillators? Neither with drag and drop modulations?? If it’s the case this is at least disappointing.

I mean, the LFO's go up to 500Hz so you COULD technically keytrack LFO (to a point) and modulate OSC freq with that.
You can also make the LFO a Saw, Tri, Square or Sine.

I tried it and it works and it's interesting. But it's obviously not straight up FM.

That's OK for bells and other clangorous sounds, but it's useless for tonal stuff. Properly implemented TZFM/PM would have been a nice addition.

yep. Keytracking LFOs is not as robust as one would hope

[cb8rwh]

If I select the 'Clean' preset, turn on the Arp and then use the modwheel, the arp speed changes while the modwheel is moving. I don't see any modulation applied in that Clean preset. Anyone else get this or know what needs to be changed to stop this behaviour?

Win10 Bitwig

EDIT: Only the VST2 version does this for me. VST3 is fine.

[Boy Wonder]

nvm

[PieBerger]

I'll try the demo and if it sounds nice and is fun to program, I'll grab it on sale in a few months' time. On paper it's not too exciting; no FM/PM, no variable phase angle (just on/off reset like v2) [would have liked this for psytrance bass], monophonic FX only and still no filter drive, so it's not an instabuy for me. Four filters is pretty interesting though!

What?! No variable phase angle? Delete.

I mean it would be nice to have and something that clearly isn't that hard to implement nor entirely useless for the masses, since it's a standard feature on pretty much every other synth I own or have owned/used.

[Ploki]

If I select the 'Clean' preset, turn on the Arp and then use the modwheel, the arp speed changes while the modwheel is moving. I don't see any modulation applied in that Clean preset. Anyone else get this or know what needs to be changed to stop this behaviour?

Win10 Bitwig

can't replicate it here
macOS Monterey / Logic

[cb8rwh]

Yeah it is the VST2 version that it happens on. VST3 is fine.

[PieBerger]

It has built in analogue drift so variable phase angle is irrelevant because two OSC drift out of sync anyway.

But yeah, i too would've wished for option to disable analogue drift + have variable phase angle.

THIS IS WHY I GO BACK TO HIVE2 EVERYTIME

It's still a very interesting synth.

Hive 2 is life very easy to simulate drift by applying serial slew rated ModNoise to pitch and phase, but can be clean/precise when the job calls for it!

Like I said in my original comment (a point that was conveniently ignored ) if it sounds good and is fun to use, I'm sure I will buy it and use it, but when I own so many synths already I can afford to be very picky when it comes to insta/impulse buying stuff now!

yep. Keytracking LFOs is not as robust as one would hope

Shame but it is what it is.

[zvenx]

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....... Also, they finally implemented proper scaling into the plugin meaning you can have much larger text and knobs which is fantastic for me as my eye sight isn't what it used to be (and it was shit to begin with!).

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HI bmanic.
How does one increase the knob and text size?
thanks
rsp