Cherry Audio's next synth is (probably) a Polivoks on steroids

[BBFG#]

It's more likely that it's ODD over OCD.

More OT: I owned a Memorymoog and chose it over a Prophet5 or an Oberheim. As far as the CA software version, I find some patches very accurate while others, not as much. Generally feel there's a presence missing in the bottom end, even though the sound is close enough otherwise. Sure, it can be improved, but it doesn't warrant a complete dismissal unless that's all you want to do with it anyway.

I currently own a Memorymoog. I can A/B the demo, and there is massive differences in anything like a complex sound, using the voice modulation at all and the Cherry audio sounds like an emulation from 25 years ago, just white noise and artifacts. The filter is so far away from the Memorymoog filter that it's embarrassing etc. etc. There are always some synth sounds that can be close when you model the layout parameter wise of a synth, but when each circuit is obviously not that close and the sum of those circuits sounds like a cheesy Reaktor attempt from 2003.

I've mentioned it before in this thread, my initial impression of CA was so bad that I was shocked with how close the Polivoks sounds to any demo I've ever heard of it. It's a great emulaiton, I wish the time had been spent on the Memorymoog emu..

And hopefully they will. I still don't think the current version should be wholeheartedly dismissed though.
And while the best thing I can say about all of these are the price point, I do enjoy playing them as well. I also find my favorites in their lineup are not these plugins but the lesser ones which I never originally owned. Novachord/Solovox, ProSoloist, Blue 3. In fact, while I played those way back when, I sometimes actually hated them then. I enjoy these way more than I ever did in their hardware form.

[IvyBirds]

The filter is so far away from the Memorymoog filter that it's embarrassing etc. etc. There are always some synth sounds that can be close when you model the layout parameter wise of a synth, but when each circuit is obviously not that close and the sum of those circuits sounds like a cheesy Reaktor attempt from 2003.

I don't remember how much I paid for the Cherry Audio Memorymoog but whatever it was it had to be pretty cheap or I would remember

Does is sound like an authentic Memorymoog? I have no idea. From what I hear from people who have used or owned one I would say no

In the end however it still has a place. Sometimes you want something to sound like a cheesy Reaktor attempt from 2003.

[BONES]

Weren't Synapse doing a memorymoog?

Not to my knowledge. It's well known that they have a Prophet 600 emulation in the works but there has been no new beta for that in more than a year, as Legend HZ and the need to update everything else every time there is a new macOS release has squeezed it out. It's a pity because it by far the most used of all my Synapse synths, even at version 0.2.

[BONES]

How does TAL-Pha get 41 pages and this only gets 8? It makes no sense to me. I have TAL-Pha, it's OK but it's nothing special. OTOH, this thing is truly special.

[IvyBirds]

How does TAL-Pha get 41 pages and this only gets 8? It makes no sense to me. I have TAL-Pha, it's OK but it's nothing special. OTOH, this thing is truly special.

Because the Alpha Juno was way more popular because it was way more versatile for many different genres of music, while Polivox was not

This is great if you want filthy distorted overdrive tones, but if that won't work with your music you are just not very into it

If you are trying to top out the East German Industrial Chart you will love this, if not you will find this to be a specialized tool, that doesn't fit

[stoopicus]

I don't think that's entirely true. The Polivoks is capable of more than the harsh aggressive tones we love it for, much like the MS-20 is.

[machinesworking]

I don't think that's entirely true. The Polivoks is capable of more than the harsh aggressive tones we love it for, much like the MS-20 is.

Yep, it's a more aggressive soviet era Minimoog with a lot of great advantages. No one says the mini fits into only one category..

[IvyBirds]

I don't think that's entirely true. The Polivoks is capable of more than the harsh aggressive tones we love it for, much like the MS-20 is.

Can it do non aggressive sounds? Sure but they are just not very exciting which is why if you read this thread no one is really excited about those

Pretty much all of us have multiple better options for non aggressive sounds

Yep, it's a more aggressive soviet era Minimoog with a lot of great advantages. No one says the mini fits into only one category..

So if you strip out the aggressive tones what do you have? Minimoog? Wow like there is not already a ton of Minimoog Plugins that sound awesome, MS20? Yep again already have that

Like you said it's an aggressive Minimoog and you get this for Aggressive Tones, without that it's just not very interesting in 2024 when there a ton of other options for that

[machinesworking]

So if you strip out the aggressive tones what do you have? Minimoog? Wow like there is not already a ton of Minimoog Plugins that sound awesome, MS20? Yep again already have that

Like you said it's an aggressive Minimoog and you get this for Aggressive Tones, without that it's just not very interesting in 2024 when there a ton of other options for that

Hmm? there are something like 6 minimoog emulations out there. The market says you're stretching.

Personal taste is personal taste, but you're not presenting your claims as personal taste so...

[elassi]

I'm interested in this synth because of its aggressive and somewhat unique character. Like IvyBirds says, I wouldn't grab it for other sounds though they might be possible. And that's why I'm not sure how often I'd use it.

However, noted it on my BlackFriday-list. We'll see.

[machinesworking]

I'm interested in this synth because of its aggressive and somewhat unique character. Like IvyBirds says, I wouldn't grab it for other sounds though they might be possible. And that's why I'm not sure how often I'd use it.

Noted on my BlackFriday-list. We'll see.

The first patch I made was a bass sound, it's not some distorted industrial bass.

It in general sounds like an old analog, it has a particularly aggressive FM knob, and the filter self oscillates in a different way. The idea that it's not good for bread and butter old analog sounds is just silly though. It doesn't sound like a Sequential or Roland, the Polivoks was an attempt at a Minimoog, with a different filter setup because of what they had in the USSR at the time.

Personally I think it's great for aggressive sounds and for muted or calming sounds. It's not going to do Juno style 80's lead sounds but you could get a solid 80's bass out of it.

[IvyBirds]

Hmm? there are something like 6 minimoog emulations out there. The market says you're stretching.

So you don't consider even 6 Minimoog emulations available as plugins to be a ton?

Myself personally, I have the Arturia, Gforce, Cherry Audio, Synapse, and NI versions of Minimoog Plugins, plus the Moog version on iPad. Not to mention all the other plugins I have that have ladder filter models and emulations like Diva, or the many samples of Minimoog sounds I have in things like Omnisphere, and UVI UltraMini

Like I said I have a ton of Minimoog plugins, and I don't even have all of them. I am covered when it comes to that sound

No one is buying this for for that sound

[stoopicus]

No one is buying this for for that sound

Yeah, but that's not what you said. What you said was:

This is great if you want filthy distorted overdrive tones, but if that won't work with your music you are just not very into it

If you are trying to top out the East German Industrial Chart you will love this, if not you will find this to be a specialized tool, that doesn't fit

...which is simply factually incorrect. It's completely capable of other styles (and comes with plenty of such presets - the presets are actually excellent.)

It's a good synth overall.

[IvyBirds]

No one is buying this for for that sound

Yeah, but that's not what you said. What you said was:

This is great if you want filthy distorted overdrive tones, but if that won't work with your music you are just not very into it

If you are trying to top out the East German Industrial Chart you will love this, if not you will find this to be a specialized tool, that doesn't fit

...which is simply factually incorrect. It's completely capable of other styles (and comes with plenty of such presets - the presets are actually excellent.)

It's a good synth overall.

Yes I did say that, and I stand by it. This is a specialized plugin for aggressive sounds, that's why people are excited about it. Can it make other types of sounds? Sure it can and I have said so, something you failed to quote me on

The problem is, if you are trying to create those types of sounds there are better options that you probably already own so you just are not all that excited about this one

This can be a "good over all synth", but most people on this forum already have a bunch of great and fantastic over all Synths.

Bones asked

How does TAL-Pha get 41 pages and this only gets 8? It makes no sense to me. I have TAL-Pha, it's OK but it's nothing special. OTOH, this thing is truly special.

You are not going to have 41 pages talking about just a "good over all synth" in 2024

[machinesworking]

Hmm? there are something like 6 minimoog emulations out there. The market says you're stretching.

So you don't consider even 6 Minimoog emulations available as plugins to be a ton?

Myself personally, I have the Arturia, Gforce, Cherry Audio, Synapse, and NI versions of Minimoog Plugins, plus the Moog version on iPad. Not to mention all the other plugins I have that have ladder filter models and emulations like Diva, or the many samples of Minimoog sounds I have in things like Omnisphere, and UVI UltraMini

Like I said I have a ton of Minimoog plugins, and I don't even have all of them. I am covered when it comes to that sound

No one is buying this for for that sound

Lol you literally bought the same synth 6 times, yet claim no one will buy another synth with a sound close to one you bought over and over again. I can't argue with that logic.