ORION PRO or FL STUDIO ?

[Joseph Burrell]

I own and love both.

[John Vulich]

rgc:audio sfz

Sounds better than just about ANY sampler in existence.

Its a soundfont player, that's all. Sampler loads SF2, Akai, Kurzweil and wav's. And you can build your own multi-layered instruments with it. It also has a great synth section to play it all through, with sidechaining of the filter's cutoff frequency. It also has the most accurate rendering ever. The're chalk and cheese.

You do not have to rely on just soundfonts with sfz. With sfZed you can also build your own multi-layered instruments, with wav files, in the sfz format. It also has a tremendous amount of audio shaping and modulation features. Like I said... it's not to everyones liking. But then again I'm a big fan of apps like Total Commander, PowerPro and Foobar2000 so I like apps that let you roll your sleeves up and get "under the hood"... so to speak.

I pretty much disregarded this when I first tried but I have since given it a second try and with the help of sfZed it is now my current favorite sampler. I really can't recommend it enough.

You might want to give it another try. It has some of the cleanest pitch shifting capabilities I've ever heard. Of course, and this isn't a slur (I promise), since you produce Industrial music you may like to use aliasing as a distortion effect.

antti Augur
May not have a better interface or better features but I think it probably sounds very comparable.

So it sounds as good [maybe] but has fewer features. Therefore, it would be reasonable to assume that its not better.

Depends on what you mean as better. Anyway, it's still under development... time will tell.

antti ASynth

Tried this a while ago and it does nothing for me at all. Who cares if it sounds analogue, I just want instruments that sound good. Its also down an LFO [and 5 destinations], two envelopes, several filter modes and a distortion effect when compared to WaspXT.

I took the A in "V/A" to mean analogue. Sorry if I misunderstood. And you did say "better sounding" not more feature laden.

Green Oak Crystal Again, perhaps not better... certainly comparable.

Maybe, if you don't care about how your filters sound.

I'm actually not a big fan of Crystal but it's the only "free wave-sequencing synth" I could think of offhand.

So maybe you score half a point out of four, but only because I am feeling generous.

Well, coming from you I take that as a major compliment!

[VitaminD]

I know.. but sfz was pointed out to be 'better' and the chopping in sampler was left out.. I wasnt even talking about fl

[Jaeson Merrill]

I know.. but sfz was pointed out to be 'better' and the chopping in sampler was left out.. I wasnt even talking about fl

sorry, i just get REALLY sensitive when people mention by beloved fruit.

ahem...

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[BONES]

FL chops things up.. for free.

Since when? BeatSlicer used to cost extra.

and tons of other stuff in its sampler.

Except the ability to play multisampled instruments like every plugin that people call a sampler.

[Jaeson Merrill]

FL chops things up.. for free.

Since when? BeatSlicer used to cost extra.

and tons of other stuff in its sampler.

Except the ability to play multisampled instruments like every plugin that people call a sampler.

of course, theres other things free that can do multisampled instruments.. its really not that big of a deal anymore...

beatslicer costs money, yes, as well as beat creator, but the fruity slicer is free and does just about the same thing (beatslicer allows for fine tuning certain things) -- and i slice up beats splendidly in FL slicer, which also now uses the FL time stretching engine (elastique)

so, yes, its free. and with better functionality then a couple years ago.

[SecondSkin]

FL chops things up.. for free.

Since when? BeatSlicer used to cost extra.

Fruity Slicer (which works directly in FLS) has been free at least since FLS 4.12, AFAIR.

[Igor 4000]

Fruity Slicer (which works directly in FLS) has been free at least since FLS 4.12, AFAIR.

It's always been free, but the functionality of it has only recently been improved. I'm talking about being able to add or remove slices.

However, I continue to be amazed that it still does not allow for muliple outputs of slices.

[John Vulich]

Except the ability to play multisampled instruments like every plugin that people call a sampler.

You can create multisampled instruments using the Layer function. Either a cumbersome or flexible approach... depending on how you want to look at it.

[Evan]

How good is FLStudio or ORION for working with non-pattern based music? Like long solos and arrangements and generally tracks with little repeating content?

[SheQueens]

why not make a comparison chart for all virtual studio's and then, finally, stop asking those same questions all over again.

[ceenda]

Evan: The only problem with Orion (imo) is that you have to aniticipate how large that solo is going to be and type in how many bars the pattern should be before you record it. I know some Orion users have been pressing for more flexible pattern sizing.

Personally, I found Tracktion the nicest for more freeform music. A clip (e.g., for a solo instrument) is as long as you like and appears as a preview on the timeline. Whereas in FLStudio, you have to have that particular channel selected just to see what's in it. Otherwise you'll be staring at a long grey bar which won't tell you very much...