Oh no its all my fault!cain wrote:well they did not keep it going by posting every two days ,i think markus actually only posted twice in the thread im not sure of the count![]()
it was the kvr machine that did the rest
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and still going talk about advertising
i think 100 will be easy
Tone2 Saurus Teaser - Competition - KVR Giveaway
- KVRAF
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
If you have requests for Korg VST features or changes, they are listening at https://support.korguser.net/hc/en-us/requests/new
- KVRAF
- 8644 posts since 2 Oct, 2006 from Leeds, UK
Need or want?pdxindy wrote:Synthmaster, Synth Squad, Twin 2, Imposcar, Trillian, Tassman, String Studio, Surge, Blue, Predator, FM8, Massive and Bazillemusikmachine wrote:What else do you need?pdxindy wrote:And Synthix and PolyKBreusenoise wrote:And Sylenth1aMUSEd wrote:You forgot OmnisphereD N A wrote: Hehe, yes my opinion is the same.
I just knew that tone2 synth gonna be criticized on KvR for whatever reason. it's like "kvr community" (whatever it is) don't like tone2.
Kvr community loves two synths mainly:
- Diva
- Alchemy
If some newbie asks about synth for:
a) pads
the answer is: diva, alchemy
b) leads
the answer is: diva, alchemy
c) chiptune
the answer is: diva, alchemy
d) deadmau 5 pluck:
the answer is: alchemy, diva
e) avicii piano sound:
the answer is: diva, alchemy
f) sine wave
the answer is: diva (yea, cpu wise), alchemy (another one perfectly suited for needs)
g) (almost forgot) skrillex dubstepzor bass
the answer is: alchemy and diva
Oh, I forgot. Third one is Zebra
Sometimes it's really funny
Meffy should made a sticky topic named: "how to make a sound". And then answer: use Diva, Alchemy, Zebra. Use it for everything.
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ps. I hope that some people have deep sense of humour but quite often it's really like this on kvr. whatever the question is - there are some people who have universal answer: use Diva / Alchemy / Zebra.![]()
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Anyway, unfortunately Tone2 seem to have to an extent invited such comparisons by their unfortunate choice of a name for this synth, and their also unfortunate decision to directly refer to u-he synths in their advertising. It probably would have been wiser and endeared more people to them if they had chosen to be less adversarial in their marketing.
Now time for some Saurus bashing! *glee*
The asio driver for my vrm box doesn't work, any else having problems? Ok, my Tone2 bashing skills need work.
Latest release and Socials: https://linktr.ee/ph.i.ltr3
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- KVRAF
- 5546 posts since 13 Feb, 2006 from Wiesmoor, Germany
musikmachine wrote:The asio driver for my vrm box doesn't work, any else having problems? Ok, my Tone2 bashing skills need work.
- KVRAF
- 3878 posts since 28 Jun, 2009 from Wherever I lay my hat
Now what I'd really like to hear are some ElectraX - Saurus comparisons. Just to hear whether all that hard work of analysing tons of analogue equipment made a difference in the sound.
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
Good point ariston! Would be fun to hear some "guess which one is which"!
Mix in some sylenth and dune and we're good for 200+ pages 
I like this kind of threads
I like this kind of threads
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 12006 posts since 12 May, 2008
If you're not using the more advanced features of ElectraX like multi-layers, sample import and vocoder stuff, it will pretty impossible to tell the difference. I think the idea is more about workflow. Saurus seems like a streamlined version focused on the VA aspect. ElectraX has the dual filters and custom wavetables and other things. But soundwise it would be a wild guess knowing which is which for similar sounds.ariston wrote:Now what I'd really like to hear are some ElectraX - Saurus comparisons. Just to hear whether all that hard work of analysing tons of analogue equipment made a difference in the sound.
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
The Saurus filter is much different than what you have in ElectraX, at least when comparing the classic LowPass 24db mode. It is easy to test.ariston wrote:Now what I'd really like to hear are some ElectraX - Saurus comparisons. Just to hear whether all that hard work of analysing tons of analogue equipment made a difference in the sound.
I just had a listen to the sawtooth waves in both synths. The Saurus wave is different to both standard sawtooth waves in ElectraX, which is more 'dry' for a lack of a better word, and extremely close, if not identical to that of the SH2. In ElectraX itself there is also a difference between the sawtooth waves. The Tr/Saw option is brighter than the Sine/Saw option which has a steeper HP rolloff and a little bit of bass boost (just a touch but it is audible). It's best to test these in the mid to lower octaves.
- KVRAF
- 3878 posts since 28 Jun, 2009 from Wherever I lay my hat
I just installed the demo of ElectraX and did some comparisons. They really are quite different, like you pointed out. I also prefer the Saurus filter; the ElectraX ones sound like they're the standard Tone2 offerings, probably the same ones found in Filterbank3 and Gladiator.himalaya wrote:The Saurus filter is much different than what you have in ElectraX, at least when comparing the classic LowPass 24db mode. It is easy to test.I much prefer the Saurus filter ( I think I have already mentioned this in this thread somewhere).
I just had a listen to the sawtooth waves in both synths. The Saurus wave is different to both standard sawtooth waves in ElectraX, which is more 'dry' for a lack of a better word, and extremely close, if not identical to that of the SH2. In ElectraX itself there is also a difference between the sawtooth waves. The Tr/Saw option is brighter than the Sine/Saw option which has a steeper HP rolloff and a little bit of bass boost (just a touch but it is audible). It's best to test these in the mid to lower octaves.
Well, that should lay to rest my sneaking suspicion that Saurus is just a cut-down ElectraX synth.
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
True. There is aliasing on high resonance (in the LP24dB mode) It pops in if the resonance value is set to about 61 (and higher) filter key follow at 50Hz (min value), cutoff at zero, filter env at max.Urs wrote:Yes, but the SH-2 doesn't have the aliasing bit going up at the beginning. I was wondering how you actually did thathimalaya wrote:That other filter sweep I posted is Saurus:
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... Sweep2.wav
It actually has a similar growl to that Sh2 as the cutoff sweeps down.
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
Yeah, it really isn't. Glad you could hear those differences too, since there were voices in this thread which stated that Saurus is no different to other Tone2 synths, but my ears tell me that it is different.ariston wrote:
Well, that should lay to rest my sneaking suspicion that Saurus is just a cut-down ElectraX synth.
I have just done a quick comparison with Gladiator, and again the sawtooth is different. In Gladiator it is more 'hi-fi' with more bass and highs. The filter is more difficult to compare due to different modes (no 24db for example). But I did a rough test of the 12dB and it responds differently to the one in Saurus. So all in all, there are differences.
- KVRAF
- 2488 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
As said earlier, this clip has made me try Saurus myself. I like it for what it is.himalaya wrote:Try this. How does this one sound?
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Sweep.wav
Much beefier than the first one. My ears say this sounds better ("Cleaner") than the first, the resonance is wobbling in the first example, while this stays steady in the high parts but towards the ends goes more wobbly.himalaya wrote:If you are still here, what do you think of this clip?
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... Sweep2.wav
What's the difference in settings??
Cowbells!
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
Hi Dalor,dalor wrote:As said earlier, this clip has made me try Saurus myself. I like it for what it is.himalaya wrote:Try this. How does this one sound?
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Sweep.wav
Much beefier than the first one. My ears say this sounds better ("Cleaner") than the first, the resonance is wobbling in the first example, while this stays steady in the high parts but towards the ends goes more wobbly.himalaya wrote:If you are still here, what do you think of this clip?
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... Sweep2.wav
What's the difference in settings??
It appears that you have missed what has transcribed with these clips?
Basically, the first clip is that of Roland SH2, a real vintage analog synth. The second is Saurus. It looks like you prefer the sound of Saurus over the sound of Roland SH2 (in this particular example).
- KVRAF
- 2488 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
LOL! That's hilarioushimalaya wrote:Hi Dalor,dalor wrote:As said earlier, this clip has made me try Saurus myself. I like it for what it is.himalaya wrote:Try this. How does this one sound?
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Sweep.wav
Much beefier than the first one. My ears say this sounds better ("Cleaner") than the first, the resonance is wobbling in the first example, while this stays steady in the high parts but towards the ends goes more wobbly.himalaya wrote:If you are still here, what do you think of this clip?
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... Sweep2.wav
What's the difference in settings??
It appears that you have missed what has transcribed with these clips?
Basically, the first clip is that of Roland SH2, a real vintage analog synth. The second is Saurus. It looks like you prefer the sound of Saurus over the sound of Roland SH2 (in this particular example).
Cowbells!
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