The All In One Source Bitwig Information & Speculation Thread

[Ogopogo]

HAIL BITWIG

A GLORIOUS DAWN

[rockstar_not]

Some shorts:

- As far as I know there is no comping. If I find out more I'll let you know.

- ATM I can't have overlapping clips at all - if I drag something on top of something else the lower thing is removed.

- Therefore no crossfades either as far as I can see?

- As I said, I don't think there are dedicated Automation Clips, but otherwise the automation is amazing.

I hope I didn't overlook something important, the speed is going up indeed in this thread

One more thing:

If you think that something important is missing from BW, keep in mind that this is 1.0
Look at Live 1.0 and BW looks VERY impressive

For me this is the basis and groundwork for a new DAW, 1.0 is the start, not the end.
For me personally it will replace Ableton Live nicely I think, since it has a better balance between clips/loops and timeline and the automation and modulation are much more to my taste.
I also look forward to the nodal view and the other things announced for later updates.

And no, it's not the DAW to replace all others - and I don't think that was ever the intention


Cheers,

Tom

Tom,

Thank you for attempting to cross-fade. I realize this is v. 1.0. However, it does look like this software is really designed to be a Live alternative and since I'm not doing DJ sets or even live loop manipulation (yet) it doesn't have much interest for me. I strum guitars and pretend I'm a guitar hero now and then and record my noodlings. But Bitwig sure seems like it has Live users salivating - so it will probably be quite successful when it is released. I don't know if others have felt this way, but I've often wondered if the whole thing wasn't some cruel joke with artificial screenshots/videos.

I have really appreciated your specific answers to specific questions in these last several pages. The answers at least have me believing that there is an actual set of code somewhere instead of someone that is just good with GUI design and video editing skills pulling off a grand joke on the music software community.

[S-N-S]

for me personally BITWIG wont replace anything i already have,it looks good on paper & videos but before i atleast have a demo to try out myself,i wouldnt worry


personally i couldnt care less if bitwig is vapourware or not

but one thing i know and that is,that they where to fast with the first announcements

[hibidy]

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I don't know if this was aimed at my specific question. The one guy on here who seems to be able to answer specific question said that my very general 'how about audio?' question several pages back wasn't specific enough.

So I tried to think about one simple feature of what I'm currently used to, that I would hate to live without simply due to the time savings it currently provides.

Is that any different than someone asking about the Live does/doesn't do this does Bitwig feature questions?

Maybe you weren't directing this at me - it's hard to tell, but since I was one of the only folks asking about audio manipulation instead of midi manipulation, I'm thinking it was directed here.

Not looking for a surgical kit - just whether a certain feature that has become as useful to me as pencil and paper will be included in the basics. The official Bitwig information is silent on the topic as far as I can tell.

It most certainly wasn't aimed at you. It was aimed at something else, and now that it's quoted it will ignored even further.

Like you I'd like to know how things are with audio compared to live or just in general. I'm not answering a specific questionnaire and waiting content approval.

Again, I can't keep up. I don't care about some esoteric technical shnizzle talk, I want to know if anyone has been recording audio and what the advantages/pitfals are. Sheeeeeeesh!

[Ogopogo]

The answers at least have me believing that there is an actual set of code somewhere instead of someone that is just good with GUI design and video editing skills pulling off a grand joke on the music software community.

I really cannot understand why somebody would consider that.

[hibidy]

Ok, in writing this, there was SOME talk about audio it looks. I don't think anything I've read anywhere that would leave me to believe there is anything in the audio department that is killer or cool that live doesn't do.

So, I'm taking a break, I'm sure some people will appreciate that

Have fun talking bitwig

[pdxindy]

The auto cross-fade that is in Tracktion is also a huge time saver when comping and editing down speeches and lectures to remove pregnant pauses, repeats, coughs, etc. (something I've had to do quite a bit in the past).

Yeah, I've done a lot of editing of audio interviews and used to use Tracktion for it. I stopped using it cause it was just not stable for me on the Mac. Reaper is pretty good for that... and Live not so much... I would be happy to use just one DAW

[dalor]

Can someone tell me what happened to the "Bitwig Studio: Important Information" - thread? Was that all a hoax BW is going be sold or just another thread where shit hit the fan?

[ZenPunkHippy]

It was a troll thread. Possibly deleted, dunno.

[Ogopogo]

Whoops.

[chk071]

Hm, i think you confuse that thread with another one. There was a thread today, where someone claimed Bitwig had been bought by a big player in the audio app business. Dunno where it's gone really, maybe it wasn't real... btw, just searching for it i found another banned long time member. Wth is going on here lately.

[Ogopogo]

^Ah ok. I thought I might have confused it so I went back to edit but you beat me.

[dalor]

^ Ow Okay. Thanks guys! Funny this thread with the most Catpix survived - and has more infos than any other thread so far!

BW sounds better by the minute. For a still-in-beta DAW the features and workflow sound already pretty impressive! Start to save my moola.

[bmrzycki]

@Tom and @Andy: Can you say anything about the copy protection system used by BW? One of the things that made me sell my copy of Live was how quickly I got locked out from activations and had to send an email begging to use the software I paid for (and I was trying to help them beta test of all things!).

If it is C/R I hope it's a little more like Spectrasonics and FXPansion, less like Live...Registration file or key would be ideal though.

[elxsound]

@rockstar Reaper has auto crossfades. It is a very powerful audio editor, and it's got a lot of stuff, like the action list and macros, that can really help with monotonous tasks. I'd say check it out. The demo is uncrippled and you can install it in about 5 minutes. No kidding.

I can second this... As you mention ProTools and as Ogopogo mentions Reaper are great for this. I haven't tried Traktion but I'm intrigued by this since it's a single window DAW which would be even better (for me) editing. I have to do the same with Dialogue, and I don't know what I'd do without those options either.

I'd aslo love to know if BW can do this too (I mean imagine that... one DAW to rule them all?).

I've tried Reaper. In fact, I did the thing where I made an SD card on it with self-contained Reaper - I keep it in my USB microphone case and now and then I tossed it into my suitcase for business trips and I had a self-contained audio recording/editing toolkit.

Then I bought a Mikey Digital for my iPhone and Garageband for iOS and I haven't touched Reaper since.

Tracktion's fades and autocross fades are great, if you ask me. I'm a sort of Tracktion fan-boy, the one window construct and M.O. really fit hand-in-glove for my brain, but I was disappointed with the Tracktion 4 release being really nothing new. I'm cranking away on Tracktion 3 to this day.

-Scott

Yeah I can understand... I read the SOS review and they basically said the same. Having never used Traktion before, I've been watching to see how all plays out. I love the amount of great choices and competition can really help push innovation.

The only reason I open Reaper now days is for audio editing. If I work in FCPX, exporting via Vordio (a 3rd party app) makes it extremely easy to cut as needed. However, I'm going to move to Premiere/After Affects/Audition and (PT/BW or maybe even Traktion???) workflow soon.

That reminds me...

Thomas (or any other beta tester... Andy???)

Can Bitwig load/playback video?