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dirty oscillators · Post by **dirty oscillators** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:45 pm

robojam wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloviate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleonasm

dirty oscillators · Post by **dirty oscillators** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:48 pm

robojam wrote:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... n%20jailer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Last_Word

debra1rlo · Post by **debra1rlo** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:48 pm

Teacher, will all these vocabulary words be on next week's test?

dirty oscillators · Post by **dirty oscillators** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:01 pm

debra1rlo wrote:Teacher, will all these vocabulary words be on next week's test?

no, but there will be an exam on Pandora and the different ways to say quantifiable.

debra1rlo · Post by **debra1rlo** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:10 pm

dirty oscillators wrote:no, but there will be an exam on Pandora

Hmmm, well OK I guess... does she know anything about this?

Emerald Tablet · Post by **Emerald Tablet** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:31 pm

i'm that dude making your heroes look stupid.

dirty oscillators · Post by **dirty oscillators** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:37 pm

Emerald Tablet wrote:i'm that dude making your heroes look stupid.

it's always about *you* isn't...

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:38 pm

I'm both. Tend to spend a lot of time going round in circles.

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:49 pm

bugland · Post by **bugland** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:49 pm

I think the given answers are quite stupid, so I'll clean the toaster...

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:52 pm

there is nothing wrong, having good teachers.
there is nothing wrong to get a bit further than them.
there is nothing wrong to ask.
there is nothing wrong to answer.

Locus M · Post by **Locus M** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:48 pm

MotorMind wrote: Well, I just revised my opinion. I'm flexible like that. It's actually closer to 98 %

So you have an oppinion based on the illusive premises that you in your (short?) lifetime has

1) listened to ALL MP3 music on ANY upload site
2) rated them statistically for originalness and
3) that people actually care about your results

So, your posts are basically a waste of space and as uninteresting and unoriginal as can be

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:04 pm

Lunatique wrote:Creativity does not exist in a vacuum, and anyone who thinks they are being so highly original is probably wrong, as we are the culmination of our influences.

...Is the right answer.

Groet, Erik

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:07 pm

Lunatique wrote:3)People who wanted to excel in the established musical conventions but failed, then looked to unconventional genres that seems to be a lot less demanding in terms of necessary knowledge of music theory, instrument performance, compositional skills...etc. When there are no established rules, you can't really fail/suck at it, right? Anyone can proclaim genius and originality, and there's no yardstick to assess whether anything they do is any good. Unfortunately, the soundscape/noise/ambient arena is full of people who would be considered bad in any established conventions of music, and the only time they don't suck is when they work in a style where quality is difficult to assess.

Really excellent post. Very good insights, and a lot of truth that doesn't get discussed largely because it's not exactly politically correct.

I've listened to the "music" of some who are so disdainful of pop, commercial success and the music business, and my curiosity was rewarded with a variety of noise that is rigorously defended as being music. It was original, but not very interesting or even pleasant. The genre of ambient has been trashed by this stuff. It didn't occur to me that this was their escape from the constraints of music convention, which requires skill and talent, but that does make sense.

So in the end, to me, whether someone is highly original or not is not the main issue; I only care if they are any good according to my personal standard for excellence.

In other words, being a follower and/or leader isn't really an issue in terms of perceived music quality and enjoyment. I do think those who are bored with much of what they hear would be more likely to be constantly seeking music that is outside not only the mainstream but even the more recent genres, which themselves are only a decade or so old. For them, true originality is all that sparks their interest, for whatever reason. Maybe it's about not being part of the crowd, sheep, lemmings or...

dirty oscillators · Post by **dirty oscillators** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:52 pm

eduardo_b wrote:I've listened to the "music" of some who are so disdainful of pop, commercial success and the music business, and my curiosity was rewarded with a variety of noise that is rigorously defended as being music. It was original, but not very interesting or even pleasant. The genre of ambient has been trashed by this stuff.

it's interesting that you say this on KVR, which has quite a few producers of this sort of music you refer to as noise and which you say has trashed the ambient genre. there are a lot of Reaktor users and those who like to experiment contributing to this website.

for as many of those who have posted up popular sounding music there are those who post up experimental ambient in The Music Cafe, some of which i have really enjoyed listening to. i'd prefer to hear out of the norm stuff.

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Follower or Leader?

So who are you.................