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taijiguy · Post by **taijiguy** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:04 pm

fmr wrote:Analogue synths were mainly subtractive synths.

Were? They still are. It's not like they're no longer being manufactured.

fmr wrote:Using FM with analogue synths is very dangerous, because any subtle fluctuation of the modulator and/or the carrier will origin different spectra, so more if the modulation index is set to high level.

I use FM with my analog modular all the time and nothing "dangerous" has ever happened. I know I'm not the only one who does.

Gribs · Post by **Gribs** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:56 pm

taijiguy wrote:
fmr wrote:Using FM with analogue synths is very dangerous, because any subtle fluctuation of the modulator and/or the carrier will origin different spectra, so more if the modulation index is set to high level.
I use FM with my analog modular all the time and nothing "dangerous" has ever happened. I know I'm not the only one who does.

Perhaps fmr meant "clangorous" instead of "dangerous"

lazerkind · Post by **lazerkind** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:56 pm

If you have a analogue synth with a self resonating filter you can often modulate the frequency of that to make FM sounds.
//L

Nokenoku · Post by **Nokenoku** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:46 pm

musikmachine wrote:Try this one (6 posts down): http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=180

Also the moog lead demo by Jedimind is nice and the clips on cl516s soundcloud page are a good representation of the blofeld sound. Then again maybe you already did and you weren't impressed.

No thanks. Those examples actually sound a way better than anything else I heard so far.
Imo the examples on the Waldorf-site are not exactly beneficial I'd say.

But I'd like to hear some more demos (especially of the Largo).

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:20 pm

Nokenoku wrote:
musikmachine wrote:Try this one (6 posts down): http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=180

Also the moog lead demo by Jedimind is nice and the clips on cl516s soundcloud page are a good representation of the blofeld sound. Then again maybe you already did and you weren't impressed.
No thanks. Those examples actually sound a way better than anything else I heard so far.
Imo the examples on the Waldorf-site are not exactly beneficial I'd say.

But I'd like to hear some more demos (especially of the Largo).

Same here. Doesn't look like there will be a demo version so audio demos are all we may have to go on.

Even though i have a blofeld it would still be a leap of faith. What if there are bugs? Bound to a few early adopters though and it is their responsibility to provide audio demos.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:42 pm

taijiguy wrote:
fmr wrote:Analogue synths were mainly subtractive synths.
Were? They still are. It's not like they're no longer being manufactured.

fmr wrote:Using FM with analogue synths is very dangerous, because any subtle fluctuation of the modulator and/or the carrier will origin different spectra, so more if the modulation index is set to high level.
I use FM with my analog modular all the time and nothing "dangerous" has ever happened. I know I'm not the only one who does.

Dangerous isn't a good adjective, I agree ':-o'
But I bet everybody understood what I meant. And of course, if you have a modular, you have a very good field for experimentation.

taijiguy · Post by **taijiguy** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:57 am

fmr wrote:
taijiguy wrote:
fmr wrote:Analogue synths were mainly subtractive synths.
Were? They still are. It's not like they're no longer being manufactured.

fmr wrote:Using FM with analogue synths is very dangerous, because any subtle fluctuation of the modulator and/or the carrier will origin different spectra, so more if the modulation index is set to high level.
I use FM with my analog modular all the time and nothing "dangerous" has ever happened. I know I'm not the only one who does.
Dangerous isn't a good adjective, I agree ':-o'
But I bet everybody understood what I meant. And of course, if you have a modular, you have a very good field for experimentation.

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you meant that it could damage the modules, or even your sound system, which can be a concern when patching a modular.

DocT · Post by **DocT** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:05 pm

A quantum of largo:

http://www.trippler.net/files/largo/lechiffre.mp3

All sounds from Largo. No additional processing except a little compression
on the drums.

Just for fun, as always

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:17 pm

DocT wrote:A quantum of largo:

http://www.trippler.net/files/largo/lechiffre.mp3

All sounds from Largo. No additional processing except a little compression
on the drums.

Just for fun, as always

an excellent example mate

iv'e always loved waldorf gear aswell..i ordered waldorf a while back (pre order) supposed to come monday and still not here

great mp3 demo though..

rob

Nokenoku · Post by **Nokenoku** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:46 pm

Thanks for the example DocT. I slowly begin to understand, what those Waldorf Synths are good for.

ckatrun411 · Post by **ckatrun411** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:02 pm

Nokenoku wrote:Thanks for the example DocT. I slowly begin to understand, what those Waldorf Synths are good for.

Probably one of the best VSt Arps on a soft synth yet. Plus, because it is Waldorf, we are talking about unbelievable filter algorithms.

I found one of my treasured books on sound design. It was in my other room under the couch.. LOL...

( ----- Referenced )

Wavetable synthesis refers to an array of methods. Vector, and Linear Arithmetic, have also been used by the industry to market niche approaches to this method of synthesis.

The four largest models of wavetable synthesis would be: single cycle, multiple cycle, sampling, cross-fading. Largo would most likely be single cycle, except, Largo can concatenate back and fourth, and between multiple waves. This concatenating functionality, would be a more complex set up, than that found on Rapture.

Pages, 43, 44, 45 -- Computer Sound Design, Synthesis Techniques and Programming, Eduardo Reck Miranda

I'm quite hot for the Largo now. I really enjoy Wavetable synthesis. I also thought the example posted by DocT was sweet.

ArrG, I have to begin setting up the music budget for late 2009, early 10. Quite a few things I want to upgrade, quite a few things I'd like to buy as well.....................

**

Those of you that think, "wave-scanning," is something other than the, "single cycle concatenating," I have mentioned, plz inform. Perhaps there is something I am unaware of, perhaps I am mistaken as well.

rocket34bg · Post by **rocket34bg** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:03 pm

largo looks nice, i should buy it

ilovesynths · Post by **ilovesynths** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:18 pm

I had the 'word' on the 22nd May, direct from someone in Waldorf Germany that Largo was 'formally' released and available from the 29th May 09.

Thomann shows it's in stock and ready to ship for UK£163 - bargain!

http://www.thomann.de/gb/waldorf_largo.htm

Anyway, go buy yours now.

Paul B
ILS site op.
http://www.ilovesynths.com

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:48 pm

Mind if i post your track on the ableton forums DocT?

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:50 pm

rocket34bg wrote:largo looks nice, i should buy it

You should, and then post demos.

Largo is here!