Link: Venom VB-303 VSTi (Beta release)

[antto]

arp_laszlo: um, is that good? the patterns should be saved with the VST memory in the project (only the clipboard isn't, due to a bug)

Shamanix: yes, next version will have both SIMD-powered and "normal" version of the synth
tho.. the SIMD-powered already uses quite a lot of CPU, the "normal" might be unusable.. i'll make it anyways..

[Shamanix]

I don't know what SIMD is exactly, but I think you can keep SSE support, just dump SSE2, don't know what is the minimum for SIMD. almost everyone using plugins has at least a CPU with SSE, those with really old computers (P2 and stuff) are pretty much restricted to trackers, or a select few plugins and some lightweight host, etc.
Hope 2.6 GHz will be enough

[antto]

SSE and SSE2 (and others like this, including 3DNow) are all SIMD instructions
SIMD = single instruction multiple destinations (if i remember correctly)

so yeah, there will be 2 versions of the synth in next release: one with no SSE or SSE2 or whatever..
the other with SSE (i'll try to remove the SSE2 if it doesn't do much)

i'm with a Core2Duo 2.8GHz (and a Duron 650MHz)
my synth (the beta version) runs slower than for example ABL, and i think a little bit faster than Phoscyon, but i think they don't use any SSE, so that's still a minus for me.. (a non-SSE version will probably be a lot slower than both ABL and Phoscyon)
SilverBox uses SSE, but i don't have it, and i can't say anything about it's CPU usage/performance (tho, it was written by a great developer, so i can guess)

[arp_laszlo]

arp_laszlo: um, is that good? the patterns should be saved with the VST memory in the project (only the clipboard isn't, due to a bug)

My bad - the pattern did not start off with a midi note to trigger the pattern.

[antto]

i'm thinking of adding a "chained" pattern mode on the sequencer
like a button or something, so when you turn it on for pattern 13, when the synth plays pattern 13, it will continue with pattern14 and then back to 13

any one thinks this might be good?

[cytospur]

I don't see the point of the chained pattern mode unless it's switchable of course. BTW, have you done something about the horrendous switches? Also, the traction on the xy-pad is pretty poor, though it doesn't stop you having fun with it!

Mark

[NAS]

Like this a lot
Only issue i have is with the switches

NAS

[xybre]

i'm thinking of adding a "chained" pattern mode on the sequencer
like a button or something, so when you turn it on for pattern 13, when the synth plays pattern 13, it will continue with pattern14 and then back to 13

any one thinks this might be good?

Not really, its dead simple to just play the first note then the second one and back again in your sequencer. You're basically making a "cheap" 32 step sequencer, and I don't think you need to.

i'd really like the thing more if it loaded only 1 pattern per octave and then offset the pattern wherever you played it from that octave by that key. ie: you load pattern1 into C1 and play it with different notes so it is a bit like an arp in that way (like silverbox can do), pattern 2 into c2, etc.

I do think that a switch for this "mode" would be siiiick though. It would make the patterns really versatile. You could have it do a "transpose" when its on, that way you don't have to do a bunch of crazy re-wiring to add the function.

The velocity-sensitive mode you mentioned would make it useless for people who use the keyboard to record notes (like me), and really tedious to program. I'd prefer if the velocity could affect the resonance or distortion.

[antto]

i can't do much about the switches, sadly
to add the "arp" mode that grymmjack mentioned, i'll have to remove 108 pattern slots, and the sequencer will have only 10.. i don't see another way of this to work..
and i'll definately not drop 108 patterns out of there
it sounds interesting this arp thing, but the price is too big

the chained stuff, i was thinking like this:
another variable per pattern (in the pattern header)
there will be a button on the sequencer for it, each pattern could have it pressed or not, and if it's pressed the sequencer will play the next pattern too..
you can do this in your sequencer too, but it might be hard if you've stacked a pattern of 7 steps with another with 9 steps (or anything assimetrical)
also, the sequencer sounds a little bit different when you change patterns, it reads the last step of the changed pattern, but things are different if there are too much slides in there (and sounds different)
there wouldn't be such a problem if the patterns are "chained" and the sequencer *knows* it has to jump to the next, and then back

anyways i'll have to rewrite some stuff for this too, so it's just an idea for now

NAS: thanks
the switches.. you have to move the mouse a lot to make them switch, sorry for that.. i guess they're new and stiff ;P~

[xybre]

to add the "arp" mode that grymmjack mentioned, i'll have to remove 108 pattern slots, and the sequencer will have only 10.. i don't see another way of this to work..
and i'll definately not drop 108 patterns out of there
it sounds interesting this arp thing, but the price is too big

No no, I said don't remove anything, just have the button do a "transpose".

Hrmm..

Hey I got a better idea. How about instead, you have a button that automatically copies the current sequence, changes to the next one above it, pastes it, and then transposes it up by one note. I think this is already possible to so manually, but a huge pain in the ass.

So like this:
1. I make a sequence
2. I copy the sequence
3. Switch to next sequence
4. Paste sequence in clipboard over current
5. Transpose current sequence up one note
6. Repeat as necessary (12 times for a full octave)

But make it do it automatically, so its one button and maybe a selector for the number of sequences to copy/transpose.

What does everyone think?

[antto]

this is not really hard to do by hand, you don'y shift each step's pitch sepparately, you press the Traspose Pattern Up button ;]
so you only need to do the copy/next_pat/paste/transpose

btw, check this new filter and tell me what you think:
http://www.box.net/shared/abpdqoh592

[xybre]

this is not really hard to do by hand, you don'y shift each step's pitch sepparately, you press the Traspose Pattern Up button ;]
so you only need to do the copy/next_pat/paste/transpose

Thats why I said its already possible, but:
4 buttons x 12 times = 48 clicks

btw, check this new filter and tell me what you think:
http://www.box.net/shared/abpdqoh592

Sounds pretty good, maybe a bit smoother than the current one. A nice filter, no ringing. I complained of the "ringing" resonance on one of Krim's synths, I suppose he ignored me, but you seem to be doing much better in that department.

There's a constant, weird buzzing sound in the background. Is that your filter? Or maybe you accidentally left an external input in the recording chain?

There's a lot of noise in the mp3s plus, constant tones with peak frequencies at:
15600hz (highest)
11670hz
19500hz
20625hz
23390hz

Also looks like you might have a bit of a DC or phase offset towards the end, I'm not sure, but the waveform looks "unbalanced".

[antto]

yes, the noise and the DC offset are not from the filter or the synth
i recorded this thru the audioIN/OUT from the new PC to my old PC so i can upload the file fast (had to transfere ~1MB thru my modem otherwise)
ignore the noise and the hiss ;]
my old filter has a bug in the oversampling, it gets obvious on high reso + high cutoff/envmod
this one doesn't have these problems ;]

[xybre]

Ahh okay, I was going to say "damn you nailed the analog sound.. it sounds like hiss and static and buzzing!"

[antto]

uh, i think i can do such noise with shaping + filtering, you like it? ;]
it comes naturaly from my cheap soundcards ;]