ableton live and it's extent of possibilities

[robogone]

If there isn't a benefit to the alternative, and you do have the choice to be online, how is it not dumb to do things alternatively when in reality that alternative is for those that don't have choice to be online?

But there is a benefit to the alternative - to people without an Internet connection on the DAW, and those people choose to not be online.

I think you confuse "derailing" for disagreeing with certain parties.

You came to this forum and started a thread to talk down Live. We all know you don't like it, so move on to your next DAW and stop derailing threads about a host you no longer use.

IMO, which I have every right to, it is dumb to do things alternatively if you have a choice as to whether or not one can have access to an IP on your primary machine/s. It's just more of a needless and less direct method of doing things.

So back to the insults?

My advice to the OP is to have an online connection available if possible. It's the best way to do things with respect to interacting with the Ableton Live program.

'Best' is subjective - it's only your opinion.

[whyterabbyt]

If there isn't a benefit to the alternative, and you do have the choice to be online, how is it not dumb to do things alternatively when in reality that alternative is for those that don't have choice to be online?

Your logic is exceptionally flawed.

If one has no choice but to use a disconnected system, one can still authenticate.
If one has the choice between a net-enabled system, or a disconnected system, then both of those scenarios are supported for authentication, so one's own choice in that matter is not mandated by the need for authentication.

It is quite ludicrous to suggest that if one has a choice between a connected or unconnected system then one should connect one's system because 'there is no benefit' to being able to do it offline.

[thecontrolcentre]

My advice to the OP is to have an online connection available if possible. It's the best way to do things with respect to interacting with the Ableton Live program.

But it doesn't work for you ... so I wonder why you keep on recommending doing things your way. I think you're just trolling, as usual. If you're so dumb that you bought Live even though you can't get it to work on your system, then sell your license and be done with it, instead of handing out useless and ill-informed "advice".

[DrXparaMental]

If there isn't a benefit to the alternative, and you do have the choice to be online, how is it not dumb to do things alternatively when in reality that alternative is for those that don't have choice to be online?

Your logic is exceptionally flawed.

If one has no choice but to use a disconnected system, one can still authenticate.
If one has the choice between a net-enabled system, or a disconnected system, then both of those scenarios are supported for authentication, so one's own choice in that matter is not mandated by the need for authentication.

It is quite ludicrous to suggest that if one has a choice between a connected or unconnected system then one should connect one's system because 'there is no benefit' to being able to do it offline.

First off, with respect to "logic" Nothing is "exceptional". It's either flawed or not and no, my logic is not flawed. That's because I have clearly explained the BENEFIT of an IP connection over the alternative. It's the way the program was intended to be used. Logically, how could it not be the preferred method. It's faster. Period. faster, more direct equals more so efficient. Better VS. dumb alternative.

[DrXparaMental]

My advice to the OP is to have an online connection available if possible. It's the best way to do things with respect to interacting with the Ableton Live program.

But it doesn't work for you ... so I wonder why you keep on recommending doing things your way. I think you're just trolling, as usual. If you're so dumb that you bought Live even though you can't get it to work on your system, then sell your license and be done with it, instead of handing out useless and ill-informed "advice".

Apparently, you don't know how to read. Keep picking a fight. You'll keep wasting your energy and the OP time. Although admittedly, it does have it's entertainment value.

[DrXparaMental]

If there isn't a benefit to the alternative, and you do have the choice to be online, how is it not dumb to do things alternatively when in reality that alternative is for those that don't have choice to be online?

But there is a benefit to the alternative - to people without an Internet connection on the DAW, and those people choose to not be online.

I think you confuse "derailing" for disagreeing with certain parties.

You came to this forum and started a thread to talk down Live. We all know you don't like it, so move on to your next DAW and stop derailing threads about a host you no longer use.

IMO, which I have every right to, it is dumb to do things alternatively if you have a choice as to whether or not one can have access to an IP on your primary machine/s. It's just more of a needless and less direct method of doing things.

So back to the insults?

My advice to the OP is to have an online connection available if possible. It's the best way to do things with respect to interacting with the Ableton Live program.

'Best' is subjective - it's only your opinion.

Incorrect. I came to this forum because it consists of a majority of people unlike yourself. People that can and will offer real unbiased information.

More fight picking.

[thecontrolcentre]

Apparently, you don't know how to read.

Apparently, you don't know how to use Live.

[thecontrolcentre]

Keep picking a fight.

More fight picking.

So disagreeing with your opinion is picking a fight with you? Grow up.

[DrXparaMental]

Apparently, you don't know how to read.

Apparently, you don't know how to use Live.

I'd love to judge how we each use Live, but I can't because your link is broke. Any chance I might be able to verify your expertise via a working link?

[Meffy]

DrX, this would be a great time to cool down. Everyone keep to facts and don't get personal. Ta.

[robogone]

I came to this forum because it consists of a majority of people unlike yourself.

You mean you thought you'd get no resistance to your opinionated, irrational hated of Live? Not with me.

People that can and will offer real unbiased information.

I guess you came here looking for that as you're not capable of it yourself. Regardless of how many people point out how arrogantly you troll threads here, you seem to be incapable of seeing it in yourself; you're right and the rest of the world is wrong.

More fight picking.

Only as a response to more trolling.

[DrXparaMental]

DrX, this would be a great time to cool down. Everyone keep to facts and don't get personal. Ta.

Understood Meffy, I'm cool and will remain so.

[whyterabbyt]

First off, with respect to "logic" Nothing is "exceptional". It's either flawed or not

Perhaps you're confusing binary values with logic; whatever. The logic of an assertion or argument is a composite of multiple sets of assertion and conclusion, each of which may be indepedently consistent or inconsistent. As such, if neither all nor none of those assertions and conclusions are flawed, the composite of that logical argument may thus be flawed to a greater or lesser degree than your binary choice admits. Your conclusion was entirely flawed. Your logical argument was exceptionally flawed; my comment stands, your misplaced handwaving fails.

and no, my logic is not flawed. That's because I have clearly explained the BENEFIT of an IP connection over the alternative.

The existence of a benefit for one system does not somehow mean that that system is unilaterally superior, particularly when it has been established that an alternative system has benefits of its own.

It's the way the program was intended to be used.

Correction. Its 'a way' the program was intended to be used. Making your assertion over and over again does not imbue it with more truth.

Logically, how could it not be the preferred method.

Logically, there are several possibilities as to why it might not be the preferred method. Logically, its up to you to disprove those possibilities; reiteration of your assertion isnt proof.

It's faster. Period. faster, more direct equals more so efficient. Better VS. dumb alternative.

Except, of course, when it is not the better alternative. I can see, though, where you are having problems grasping that simple logical truth.

[thecontrolcentre]

Apparently, you don't know how to read.

Apparently, you don't know how to use Live.

I'd love to judge how we each use Live, but I can't because your link is broke. Any chance I might be able to verify your expertise via a working link?

I was referring to your thread about how you were sick of Live 8 because it doesn't work on your system. I'm not really interested in a pissing contest, but you can see vids of my tunes and . I did the music in Live, someone else made the vids. You can buy my music here, here and here.

[DrXparaMental]

First off, with respect to "logic" Nothing is "exceptional". It's either flawed or not

Perhaps you're confusing binary values with logic; whatever. The logic of an assertion or argument is a composite of multiple sets of assertion and conclusion, each of which may be indepedently consistent or inconsistent. As such, if neither all nor none of those assertions and conclusions are flawed, the composite of that logical argument may thus be flawed to a greater or lesser degree than your binary choice admits. Your conclusion was entirely flawed. Your logical argument was exceptionally flawed; my comment stands, your misplaced handwaving fails.

and no, my logic is not flawed. That's because I have clearly explained the BENEFIT of an IP connection over the alternative.

The existence of a benefit for one system does not somehow mean that that system is unilaterally superior, particularly when it has been established that an alternative system has benefits of its own.

It's the way the program was intended to be used.

Correction. Its 'a way' the program was intended to be used. Making your assertion over and over again does not imbue it with more truth.

Logically, how could it not be the preferred method.

Logically, there are several possibilities as to why it might not be the preferred method. Logically, its up to you to disprove those possibilities; reiteration of your assertion isnt proof.

It's faster. Period. faster, more direct equals more so efficient. Better VS. dumb alternative.

Except, of course, when it is not the better alternative. I can see, though, where you are having problems grasping that simple logical truth.

Holy word salad! All that and not a single benefit with respect for the alternative choice by someone with internet access on their music machine.

hmmm...me thinks you are declaring a forfeiture here because you have not provided any real reason to justify the alternative apart from that of necessity.