Amplitube 3 - screenshot (from NAMM)

[bmanic]

I wish they had in addition a generic convolution based cab module where you could load your own IR, instead of having to use the VST alongside a third party convolution plugin and bypass the cab.

Since they already use convolution (and just give the impulses different skins), it must be something fairly easy to implement.

++++1000!!

That would pretty much seal the deal for me.

Cheers!
bManic

[redshift factor]

I don't like the idea of loading 3rd party plugins or speaker impulses in the middle of AmpliTube. They might as well fill it with Peaveys if they're going to do that...

I'd rather keep the AmpliTube flow and unique sound.
AmpliTube should remain 100% pure IK.

If there's something you'd like to bring into AmpliTube, you should request IK model it. I've gotten at least 1 model in all by myself, through sheer persistence.

[A3ntar]

I don't like the idea of loading 3rd party plugins or speaker impulses in the middle of AmpliTube. They might as well fill it with Peaveys if they're going to do that...

I'd rather keep the AmpliTube flow and unique sound.

I don't understand your logic RF.

You're only loading third party cab impulses if you want to. You will still have all of your default sampled cabs as per the usual.

This just adds yet another level of flexibility by adding this custom convolution cab. I see nothing negative in that at all.

AmpliTube should remain 100% pure IK.

To me, this is like saying "I will not be using any other presets beside the ones provided with Amplitube because only them have been IKMM tested and approved".

Since the convolution module will be coded by IK, it will be 100% pure IK, just with a lot more flexibility


.

[fanfarecircuit]

OK to catch up on a couple of things... The preorder cutoff is end of February. There is also going to be a special incentive for those that purchased AmpliTube 2, Metal, and Hendrix so those who spent hundreds before promos came out should get some love too!

Emails are not going out all at once, there are a LOT of emails to be sent. If you still don't have one in th enext day or two let me know.

Thanks!

very nice. seems ik are really going in the right direction this time.

i take full credit.

[PointOfDeparture]

oh.....my......can't wait to see what the extra-special upgrades are! will definitely be worth the price of re-admission! i agree with a3ntar; would be nice to add IRs of my own to the mix and IK would lose very little by including this feature.

[redshift factor]

I don't understand your logic RF.

You're only loading third party cab impulses if you want to. You will still have all of your default sampled cabs as per the usual.

Well lets start with just the logistics.
How would you use the VRM modeled mics with an outside cab impulse?
It seems to me that loading an outside cab would single handedly undermine just about all of the advancements AT3 brings.

And then there is the fact that AmpliTube is a work of art.
Loading impulses and SynthEdit plugins you downloaded off the net would destroy its integrity and unique identity.

You see it as more options. I understand where you are coming from.
But I see it as diminishing AmpliTube's cachet.

[Kevin63101]

And then there is the fact that AmpliTube is a work of art. Loading impulses and SynthEdit plugins you downloaded off the net would destroy its integrity and unique identity.

A VST amp sim purest -- you gotta love it.

[redshift factor]

A VST amp sim purest -- you gotta love it.

That made me LOL.

But I'm just saying, you have to expect IK Multimedia is going to be very protective of AmpliTube's identity. And I don't blame them one bit.
It's a no brainer when you look at it from their perspective.

[Kevin63101]

Nigel: "Ah, this AMPLITUBE 3 is special, too. Look, see, still got the, uh, the old tagger on it. See, never even played it. See?"
Marty: "You just bought it and... (He points at it)"
Nigel: "Don't touch it. Don't touch it."
Marty: "I wasn't gonna-- I wasn't gonna touch it."
Nigel: "No, don't touch it."
Marty: "I was just pointing at it. I..."
Nigel: "Well, don't point even. It can't..."
Marty: "Don't even point?"
Nigel: "No, it can't be played. Never, I mean, I can't..."
Marty: "Can I look at it?"
Nigel: "No."
Marty: "Don't look at it?"
Nigel: "No, you've seen enough of that one."

[redshift factor]

I find this very interesting:

On the AmpliTube 3 interface page at ikmultimedia.com, the 4x10+tw bass cab is identified as being a Trace Elliot (probably a 1048H). But in the AmpliTube 2 user manual, the 4x10+tw is identified as being an SWR® Goliath™ 4x10.

So did IK actually do away with the old 4x10+tw bass cab model for a new one, or are they just calling it a Trace Elliot now to match their new bass amp?

This would be the first piece of gear in AmpliTube outright swapped for a totally different one, FAIK.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I'm in the "no external impulses" camp as well. I don't want a modular synth. I want a guitar amp program. Fast, and easy to use.

Nothing's stopping anyone who wants more options from disabling the cab sims altogether and using their own. That's still gotta be the minority. Every time a new VST amp sim comes out that wants me to use my own cab impulses, I immediately file it under the "don't care" category. If I open up a Marshall JCM800 in Amplitube, I know there are one or two cabs that it should sound great with. I don't want to have to sort through a library of 1,000 cabs to get a sound. That's how Revalver always made me feel and I didn't appreciate it.

But again, if you feel differently, fine. No one's stopping you from using whatever cab sim you want. Just don't drown me options....

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Peter,

I have every AT2 offering and bought them all as soon as they came out... I have $134 Jam $ (whatever they are)......

So, when and how much will this upgrade set me back?

Thanks,
Jim

You will be better off with the incentive for people who own the three (AT2, Jimi, Metal) outright and not bundled or from promo/freebies. If you don't get any email or other contact about this before NAMM's done let me know.

[A3ntar]

I think you guys are missing the point that you will get to keep your existing cabs, but only in the addition of an extra generic IR loading cab module.

So for you, it changes squat, nada, zilch. So you get exactly what you have now. No need to mess around with IR files or anything of that nature.

But for us, it allows us to use custom IR without the need of finding a VST host and a third part VST plugin to load the IRs.

[redshift factor]

I think you guys are missing the point that you will get to keep your existing cabs, but only in the addition of an extra generic IR loading cab module.

No, I get it. I just don't like it.
It would be very unAmpliTubish.
Like FET said, if the VRM modeled cab+mics aren't good enough for you and you want an external cab impulse that you downloaded for free off the internet (like ReValver has) then bypass the cab section and load up an insert slot with SIR and have at it.

In fact, you can download every cab impulse found in ReValver for free from NoiseVault where they came from, and dispense with ReValver altogether.

[grymmjack]

Another slap in the face to loyal customers

So $200 off full price (well over a 50% discount) is a slap in the face?

Yes, when you already have spent, like, $700-800 on the complete AT package. And a few months later one can pick it up for $199.

I guess it is better to wait a few months for the next group buy and get AT3 for $99.

I'll happily pre-order at $149 and use the Jampoints for something else.

But what? I already own all their plugins (except Miroslav, which I have no interest in).

that's well put. it's what i was getting at without mentioning it. it seems like paying for each of these other plugs was a waste of time if they are all included into AT3 directly, so that's why i felt a little bit like "rip off" because i've already paid so much for what apparently is all just 1 big product? maybe i'm missing how they are doing the new one but it seems like they are putting all the eggs into one basket no? seems to me they should take a page from imageline store and offer a dollar amount discount based on how many Powered by AT products you already have, so if you have 4 (including XGEAR) like me, you get 4x that fixed amount. instead of $50 off for pre-ordering. If the amount was say $20 for each PBAT prodcut that'd put the discount at $80 and make it $120, which seems fairer than a flat $50. even if it is only a few dollars more, times are hard right now.

seems more fair that way to existing owners of the collection. maybe i'm wrong. i count 6 possibilities there, so if it was $20 discount for each (without any pre-order time limit strings for qualifying the price) that would make the discount better for the customer that already has more of what AT3 is offering anyway no? ie: at2, at svx, at jh, at metal, at xgear, at fender, gets $120 off so they only pay $80 since they already paid nearly a grand or so unless they did GB's from esoundz, etc.