KVR Audio

Dewaine · Post by **Dewaine** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:00 am

Sascha Franck wrote:Energy XT. Completely useless, especially when you compare it to some other sequencers.
Huge latency, inacceptable recording offsets and in general a pretty much limited featureset.

- Sascha

I forgot about that one. I thought it had potential, but the developer has a history of letting projects die. So I would not recommend it to anyone....

quayquay17 · Post by **quayquay17** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:02 am

every single one except korg's ikaossilator

honestly.

patcub · Post by **patcub** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:50 am

I pretty much agree. I bought several apps, the one I used most was Korg iMS20. I played with it 3 or 4 hours then I was done with it. The other ones I bought (garage band, rebirth, animoog...) played with it 20 min then i was done, it's too limited in one way or another.

Now I just use my ipad as a controller for my DAW, and to make music I use my computer, lesson learnt ! I will not buy any other synth or sequencer for ipad for a long time.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:18 am

Even if this thread is about which purchases you regret, I need to say that I'd even spend double the money for NanoStudio.
Whether you can actually produce real tunes on an iPhone (which is what I'm using) or not - I don't know. To me, proper MIDI editing and audio recording are crucial, so the best I may come up with might be some fun ideas that I may then reuse later on in my sequencer of choice, but: I have already had tons of fun with instant sampling, mangling and beat creating just using NanoStudio, most often even only using the internal mic of the iPhone or the one of my headset.
I have no idea whether those samples, grooves and whatnot will ever find their way into any actual work, but for me it's surely a better way to waste some time on the train, bus, plane and wherever than playing some stupid games or so.
In addition, for one theatre production where I also have to trigger some samples (I'm usually just playing guitar there), I can now keep my laptop and MIDI keyboard at home and just use my iPhone - for that purpose alone I would've paid double the price.

Something I'd wish in general: Music apps should be a little more compatible. To get, say, a nice backing I might have done in NanoStudio into Amplitube (which I also like quite a lot), I need to use my computer. That just sucks.
There are some "almost standards" of copying, say, samples between apps, I wish all music apps would follow these standards (and obviously, it should also be possible for MIDI files). The best would be if there was some sort of plugin standard, too.
But hmpf, I doubt that Apple will ever get rid of all that proprietary bullshit (fwiw, there's literally zero of those file interchange problems under Android). Well, maybe now that Steve Jobs is gone they need to get a clue...

Ok, sorry for the OT stuff.

- Sascha

xkadathx · Post by **xkadathx** » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:22 am

APPS I REGRET BUYING

Noise.IO. Like any Amidio app, the UI is tacky and a nightmare to navigate. It also never really received any meaningful updates.

BassLine. Utterly boring 303-wannabe. I should've known better.

APPS I MIGHT REGRET BUYING

iSequence for iPad. The first music app I bought when I got my iPad. I really liked iSequence, but over the past year it's gotten a little long in the tooth, and the developer has seemingly cast it aside in favor of working on Sunrizer. I still have hope that it'll get some attention in the near future.

APPS I DEFINITELY DON'T REGRET BUYING

NanoStudio. Without a doubt, NS is my favorite music app. Powerful, easy to use, high quality synth and effects, and rock solid stability. It's not perfect, but it gets closer with every update.

Animoog & Filtatron. Moog sure knows how to make impressive iOS apps. Not only do they sound great, they have really attractive GUIs.

Hokusai. I bought this to get around NanoStudio's sample editing shortcomings and it does the job admirably with a nice minimal UI.

Proxima4 · Post by **Proxima4** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:13 pm

I dont like any of them that much but I only have an ipod touch, after downloading about 10 or so, the Brian Eno app's like Bloom are the only ones that suite the environment that it's in, for me, the rest are just to show your mates what odd stuff you have, they are a pain to work with, with one swipe of the finger sending you into menu frenzy most of the time

I'm yet to use my touch as a field recorder, but I think that iRig mic, may change my feeling's a bit

Forme, anythinf with simple controls, like the Moog Filtertron, that you can re-sample sounds into, is a good bet for some lunch time, music creation.

But the rest is pretty worthless, I'm thinking unless they come from an established DSP producer. you shoud stay pretty clear of them.

Brings me back to my other post on this forum, about none tablet based, touch screen I could use with my exsisting Vst through Windows 7 functionality.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:36 pm

xkadathx wrote:APPS I REGRET BUYING

Noise.IO. Like any Amidio app, the UI is tacky and a nightmare to navigate. It also never really received any meaningful updates.

I bought this guitar app from them - it looked good but the sound is dreadful. The guitar in GarageBand is much better sounding (as is the Wi one but I didn't like the gui of that)

saichele · Post by **saichele** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:17 am

I've bought most of them (I have ~200 music apps on our home's media mac). I sold off a bunch of VSTs to buy them, and while I don't regret the move, I do regret numerous (too numerous to mention) impulse buys that turned out to be at best cheap novelties and/or pretty toys (to say nothing of all the apps that failed even at that).

I like the iKaossilator in that it does almost everything I would hope for on a mobile platform (using it as a clip launcher is wicked fun), but it is too limited to me for serious 'production'. Animoog and Lemur are a new level though. Virtual midi support is the name of the game.

jacqueslacouth · Post by **jacqueslacouth** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:30 am

JavaJ · Post by **JavaJ** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:54 am

Really hating the "free" apps out there. You try something out and put money into in app purchases and then find out that you should have bought the full version before buying anything in-app. Nothing transfers, and features are handicapped. Why offer inappropriate on free apps then?

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:46 am

JavaJ wrote:Really hating the "free" apps out there. You try something out and put money into in app purchases and then find out that you should have bought the full version before buying anything in-app. Nothing transfers, and features are handicapped. Why offer inappropriate on free apps then?

Very valid question - especially as there *is* an option to transfer in-app-purchases from whatever free/limited version to the full version.

- Sascha

Aural Chaos · Post by **Aural Chaos** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:37 pm

Unless you just blame it on Apple and the appstore

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=336782

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:01 pm

Aural Chaos wrote:Unless you just blame it on Apple and the appstore

Yeah well, recently the IKMM dudes seem to like it making idiots out of themselves (edit: and FWIW, Brian seems to be an expert at that).

- Sascha

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:16 pm

People, one of the surest ways to get a thread locked is to start getting personal. My inclination was to lock this thread as soon as it began because in my experience "let's you and them fight" threads invariably devolve into this kind of thing. Against my better judgement I left it open. That was probably stupid of me.

To keep the thread open, keep it civil and, if possible, solution-oriented, okay?

Aural Chaos · Post by **Aural Chaos** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:36 pm

Any thread can turn into a shitstorm.

I think the basic idea here is beneficial to the community: "I paid X$ for app Y and I was dissapointed because Z"

I also think if certain companies have bogus policies, people should be made aware of them...

Music apps you regret buying (iPad,iPhone)