KVR Audio

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:57 pm

philterino wrote:Virus £1000
ANA £30

No one can tell the difference - priceless.

Fred_Abstract · Post by **Fred_Abstract** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:22 pm

djanthonyw wrote:I definitely disagree, I've never like the sound of Zebra and never understood how people could even compare Zebra to something like a Virus... feature-wise, maybe, but Zebra sounds nothing like a Virus. Zebra's sound is very flat and sterile.

maybe not for the sounds you programs but zebra can sound definelty close to a virus on some patchs,especially with a bit of processing .

D N A · Post by **D N A** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:41 pm

Judging by audio demos, the factory bank is focused on EDM (?), so ANA should be perfect for those who produce such music. I like synths focused on some specific customers. I'm actually bored with all those synths that try to be perfect for everyone so their factory banks look like some total mess ie:
- some Brass
- some analog lead
- Deadmau Lead
- some string
- 90s Dance Lead
- dubstep wobble
- some FM Bass
- some crappy, unusable effect
- some bell
- some cow ;d

At least, here if you're interested in EDM you can have properly designed synth, with ready to go factory bank (at least that is what i have imagined after listening to audio demos), just like in Sylenth for example. Also, im not sure why are we talking about Zebra here. Using Zebra for EDM is like using a shotgun to kill an insect

- sure you can do it (just like you can use virtually any synth), but there are smaller, faster, more handy and dedicated tools.

ps. And I dont care if ANA sounds like Virus - I like the audio demos enough to put ANA on my "buy list"

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:17 am

philterino wrote:Virus £1000
ANA £30

Isn't it £50 on the site? No offense to you or your products but I can't imagine taking the time to do on-line tutorials.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:14 pm

Demo pul-eesssee....

bob bobwood · Post by **bob bobwood** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:32 pm

Wot ? Still no demo.

cis-didge · Post by **cis-didge** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:13 pm

I am quite shure I gonna buy this, but I want to demo it first.

loopdon · Post by **loopdon** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:23 pm

A thought i had:
Could you add a feature to the adsr envelopes that would be
something like 1/4th or 1/16th and stuff? I know it can be done my ear/ ms but
adding a tempo-relaed option would be proper cool in my book.

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:12 pm

djanthonyw wrote:I do not have a virus anymore, I sold both the classic & powercore version, and my nord lead after I realized that certain soft synths sounded better and more usable.

Of course ANA can sound like a Virus, even the ES2 can:

http://soundcloud.com/klemsmusik/the-pr ... rogressive

http://soundcloud.com/p41music/es2-soundset-demo

hey man, i've found the klem soundset but where'd you ind the p41 set - some good stuff in there

juansep · Post by **juansep** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:18 am

Cyforce wrote:Short question - have you a virus on your desk?

Because if the is one softsynth out which can be seen as virus replacement it's zebra! Not because the quality sound, also because the flexibility.

And i bet my blofeld that ANA can't sound like a virus, for example like some sounds of this sequences:

http://soundcloud.com/cfa-sound/cfa-sou ... gy-virusti
For example the cold pad on 1:45, or the pluck on 2:45.

http://soundcloud.com/cfa-sound/demo-th ... 1-virus-ti
on 6:20

Just because a very simple reason the ANA can't do what Virus can do and sound...

I actually do have a Virus TI next to me, I have to say though that imo it really lacks in the basic VA department, ANA and Sylenth easily beat it, hypersaw is way too metallic and extremely bright for my taste, it lacks body, mids and meat. I was really dissapointed after listening the hypersaw osc, not to mention as soon as you push the unison 5 or more you literally rape the DSP and it starts quirking with all sort of issues (crackles, chopped audio).

The Virus relies more on its effects than the actual VA engine, the thing is, as I said in another thread, I believe the actual power of the Virus lies on its formant/wavetable/graintable oscs combined with its effects and filters, thats where the true juice of the Virus is imo, because its one of a kind in those areas, there's no match for it. The snap on Virus envelopes is something that adds a lot to the sound, that's why plucks coming from the Virus sound so nice, the filters are really well designed and fit really nicely with the envelope curves. I have to agree that no VSTi synths have reached the quality of the Virus onboard effects (which play a huge role in the virus sound character), but you can get amazing results with separate vst effects.

Leaving those areas aside, and focusing on straight VA subtractive, I believe Sylenth1 and ANA produce sounds with more body than the virus.
The modern supersaw (I'm not talking the JP-8000 style, but the more modern ones, the ones people ask "oh my god how does it sound THAT fat") test is key imo, not because the sound is heavily used, but because it tests some key classic synthesis features, such as unison, filters, envelopes and raw oscillators. Its not a definitive test of course, but its one of the first tests I like to run and i'm sorry to say but imo I just couldn't make one that I felt it had the meat, the body, while with Sylenth1 I could and I've been told that ANA could too, i've listened to raw demos and I've been impressed.

I have to say though while I agree with anthony on what he said about ANA/Sylenth vs Virus, I have to really disagree on the ES2 sounding like a Virus, it doesn't come even close imo.

BFunKu · Post by **BFunKu** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:46 am

I would take Sylenth1, z3ta+ 2 or Dune over a Access Virus any day! And I have owned a Virus B, Virus C and a Virus Indigo. Actually the reason I sold my Virus Indigo is because Sylenth1 sounded better than it. Also I'm really looking forward to trying this ANA synth out as soon as the demo version is released. The sound demos on the site sound Awesome!

filtide · Post by **filtide** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:42 am

Guys who only know Virus before the TI times, forget it! TI with the latest OS is much more powerful and has a broader soundpalette than before. It sounds awesome and for me its hypersaw osc is amazing. I don't know ANA yet, but if you don't like Virus' signature sound then don't use it, a synth's sound is matter of taste. Choose the ones you like most.

b-pole · Post by **b-pole** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:06 am

discount coupon for kvr users?

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:47 am

D N A wrote:- some crappy, unusable effect

You're so right.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:16 am

Virus is a special thing, it's not for all a 100% love and I know about some artists using this days a Virus B again or using for leads and stuff the Nord Lead besides plug-ins and not the Virus.
The typical trancy sound of the Virus is IMO a unison sound with detuned saw oscillators. A synth with a bit rough sound and a good unison implementation can recreate such sound very easy. For special sounds like soundscapes and stuff IMO people using more Omnisphere, Absynth, Massive, Z3ta and not the Virus.

The other thing is: eventually this typical Virus sounds are a bit overused. Listen to Trance around the World (TATW) where I sometimes have the feeling everybody is using the same Virus sound

Often one track sounds very similar like the other tracks.
I will say, eventually it's better not to try to sound like Virus again and again?

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