KVR Audio

beatmangler443 · Post by **beatmangler443** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:28 pm

Any presonus users catch the backlash they have been getting lately:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar16/a ... io-192.htm
https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=160

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:44 pm

Well, it now is on the same level as Reaper, Cubase, Reason and a few others that have their fair share of bashers and fanboys duking it out.

Might as well wait to see what this hype is about.

After all, this is what marketing men do so well.

Create hype.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:03 pm

EnGee wrote:
For Artist, I still can run Reaktor and Kontakt. I don't have Kontakt but I have some Reaktor instruments. The problem it is not seeing Reaktor 6, so I need to install Reaktor 5.

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If I recall you can just rename the vst to the same as that of the one that does run in artist and it will load

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:05 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
SeeingInMidi wrote:just rewatched the teaser. I spotted a red fader, red fader = vca fader?
That's my thinking too. That feature is pretty much confirmed in my mind.

I have ask the n00bish question.

What's a VCA fader compared to a normal DAW mixer fader?

Muziksculp · Post by **Muziksculp** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:43 am

Hi,

The banner posted on the Presonus S1 3.2 Blog page mentions : New Features, Workflows, and Surprises.

http://blog.presonus.com/index.php/category/studio-one/

So... How likely is it that they will be adding a pattern-based editing workflow/environment in S1 3.2 ?

This will offer S1 v3.2 the pattern/clip style workflow that DAWs like Live, Bitwig, and FL Studio offer, if they do this, S1 v3.2 will be very attractive to many electronic musicians who like working in a pattern based DAW.

If you think this is a very unlikely prediction/scenario, then what could the new features, workflows, and surprises be ?

Cheers,
Muziksculp

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:55 am

Muziksculp wrote:Hi,

The banner posted on the Presonus S1 3.2 Blog page mentions : New Features, Workflows, and Surprises.

http://blog.presonus.com/index.php/category/studio-one/

So... How likely is it that they will be adding a pattern-based editing workflow/environment in S1 3.2 ?

This will offer S1 v3.2 the pattern/clip style workflow that DAWs like Live, Bitwig, and FL Studio offer, if they do this, S1 v3.2 will be very attractive to many electronic musicians who like working in a pattern based DAW.

If you think this is a very unlikely prediction/scenario, then what could the new features, workflows, and surprises be ?

Cheers,
Muziksculp

I kind of think they are going after Bitwig and Live users too .

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:59 am

beatmangler443 wrote:Any presonus users catch the backlash they have been getting lately:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar16/a ... io-192.htm
https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=160

I'm interested in there USB3 interfaces so this has been a disappointing read . Seems us Windows users are way behind in the audio interface department latley . Where's our USB-C or Thunderbolt audio interface for Windows ??? Anyways the Presonus Studio 192 Mobile interface looks promising we will see soon maybe ?????

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:17 am

I have so many thoughts.

I'll just mention one here. If they would have taken the top "issues" seriously, kicked ass and left a wake of destruction, none of this would matter.

As for that last post about the 192, presonus have made questionable hardware for a while. Not surprising the drivers are not what they promised.

Want the lowest latency and best overall sound? Quit yer gripping and get an RME. Problem solved. No really, it's not bullshit.

cain · Post by **cain** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:53 am

yep rme works great for me and really low latency.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:51 am

fedexnman wrote:
Muziksculp wrote:Hi,

The banner posted on the Presonus S1 3.2 Blog page mentions : New Features, Workflows, and Surprises.

http://blog.presonus.com/index.php/category/studio-one/

So... How likely is it that they will be adding a pattern-based editing workflow/environment in S1 3.2 ?

This will offer S1 v3.2 the pattern/clip style workflow that DAWs like Live, Bitwig, and FL Studio offer, if they do this, S1 v3.2 will be very attractive to many electronic musicians who like working in a pattern based DAW.

If you think this is a very unlikely prediction/scenario, then what could the new features, workflows, and surprises be ?

Cheers,
Muziksculp
I kind of think they are going after Bitwig and Live users too .

I actually think they are going after Pro Tools users (mainly). Anyway, we will see in few days

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:07 am

EnGee wrote:I actually think they are going after Pro Tools users (mainly). Anyway, we will see in few days

After all the subscription shenanigans Avid has played with Pro Tools, they'd be silly not to.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:53 am

I'm hoping its more modularity, such as the environment they referred to when making the new instruments.

I see no one can answer my previous question about VCA vs DAW fader.
Fruityloops and several other DAWs already have it.

No idea why it's referred to as VCA in the digital realm, as its obviously not voltage controlled.

It a 'relative' value group fader.

In a large–format analogue mixer, a VCA, or Voltage Controlled Amplifier, is a channel gain control that can be adjusted by varying a DC voltage on the control input. This makes it possible to 'move' a raft of faders together, maintaining any offsets within them, by moving a single control fader.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:38 am

VariKusBrainZ wrote:I'm hoping its more modularity, such as the environment they referred to when making the new instruments.

I see no one can answer my previous question about VCA vs DAW fader.
Fruityloops and several other DAWs already have it.

No idea why it's referred to as VCA in the digital realm, as its obviously not voltage controlled.

It a 'relative' value group fader.

In a large–format analogue mixer, a VCA, or Voltage Controlled Amplifier, is a channel gain control that can be adjusted by varying a DC voltage on the control input. This makes it possible to 'move' a raft of faders together, maintaining any offsets within them, by moving a single control fader.

The whole VCA thing is very misleading in a DAW, it is as you say just a fader that moves a group of faders with a relative position; it is easy to achieve with almost any DAW, it was only a big deal on analogue mixing desks. (see here for Studio One 3 http://www.studio-one.expert/studio-one ... udio-one-3 )

They may have added a simple 'one click' way of doing this with a red fader cap to show its a VCA.

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:32 pm

I agree about the Presonus dodgy interfaces , I had an early version of there Firebox FireWire interface it had a whining sound when using its analog ins n outs , RME yes I get it , but I'm waiting for USB-C / 3.1 3.2 or Thunderbolt for Windows , seems USB 3.0 interfaces are a joke. Focusrite Clarett may end up being the 1st Thunderbolt audio interface with Windows we will see... Meanwhile Im still using an echoaudiofire4 ..., As to S1V3 update I do think it's a mixer console thingy too from the pics , yawn ... Presonus could do something in the pattern launcher area IMHO and sell a Push type thingy but I think it's probably just some kind of console emulation. Yawn ...... So yes they are after ProTools and Cubase users still . I think they are losing a good bulk of DAW users or potential customers by doing nothing groundbreaking that would attract FL , Renoise , Live , and Bitwig users though .

audientronic · Post by **audientronic** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:38 pm

If there isn't copy-and-paste or drag-and-drop copying of tracks from one song to another, I'm not interested.

NEW Studio One v3 updates incoming.