KVR Audio

Whywhy · Post by **Whywhy** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:58 pm

Agree with you nleif, but finally I made a 16steps with 2 switchs, a divider ...save as a cabinet, and didn't buy any extra module.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:03 pm

For those of you who have it - how is the GUI scrolling? For me it's very choppy in Bitwig 2.4 and sa a standalone application, whereas it is smooth in Live 10. After further investigation it turned out Live was running it at half-resoultion (2x2 pixels) and when I disabled plugin scaling and got it to display 1x1 image, it was choppy as well. It appears Voltage doesn't use GPU for rendering, which is unfortunate, but then it's not a complex 3D models so it should be handling it much better. Disabling animations, shadows, etc. doesn't really change anything.

Any ideas how to improve it (I'm on Surface Pro 4 i7)?

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:04 pm

Whywhy wrote:Agree with you nleif, but finally I made a 16steps with 2 switchs, a divider ...save as a cabinet, and didn't buy any extra module.

Can you share it, please? I'm only starting my journey with modular stuff

Charlie Firpo · Post by **Charlie Firpo** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:12 pm

Can you gate sync (lock) the phase on the Analog Oscillator?

Captain · Post by **Captain** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:23 pm

antic604 wrote:For those of you who have it - how is the GUI scrolling? For me it's very choppy in Bitwig 2.4 and sa a standalone application, whereas it is smooth in Live 10. After further investigation it turned out Live was running it at half-resoultion (2x2 pixels) and when I disabled plugin scaling and got it to display 1x1 image, it was choppy as well. It appears Voltage doesn't use GPU for rendering, which is unfortunate, but then it's not a complex 3D models so it should be handling it much better. Disabling animations, shadows, etc. doesn't really change anything.

Yes, it's pretty choppy here too. I'm using it as an AU plugin in Logic, and it's maybe slightly smoother as standalone, but not by much. I have tried it on a MacBook Pro (2017) & Mac Pro (2013), and while it's slightly better on the Mac Pro, I also have a feeling it _should_ be able to scroll much faster, since there is no fancy 3D gfx or anything, as you said. Hope there is some way to do it, as right now the slow GUI is pretty much my only major gripe with VM...

Whywhy · Post by **Whywhy** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:59 pm

Captain wrote:
antic604 wrote:For those of you who have it - how is the GUI scrolling? For me it's very choppy in Bitwig 2.4 and sa a standalone application, whereas it is smooth in Live 10. After further investigation it turned out Live was running it at half-resoultion (2x2 pixels) and when I disabled plugin scaling and got it to display 1x1 image, it was choppy as well. It appears Voltage doesn't use GPU for rendering, which is unfortunate, but then it's not a complex 3D models so it should be handling it much better. Disabling animations, shadows, etc. doesn't really change anything.
Yes, it's pretty choppy here too. I'm using it as an AU plugin in Logic, and it's maybe slightly smoother as standalone, but not by much. I have tried it on a MacBook Pro (2017) & Mac Pro (2013), and while it's slightly better on the Mac Pro, I also have a feeling it _should_ be able to scroll much faster, since there is no fancy 3D gfx or anything, as you said. Hope there is some way to do it, as right now the slow GUI is pretty much my only major gripe with VM...

I have find that changing the settings for cables result in more snappy Ui.
I can scroll without any problems.
Unmark all cable options, mark just that :
Hide cables when dragging modules.
Transparent: all but current modules.
W10x64, bitwig 2.4

16 steps seq
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ige3hw0dbsjf8 ... binet?dl=0

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:10 pm

Whywhy wrote:I have find that changing the settings for cables result in more snappy Ui.
I can scroll without any problems.
Unmark all cable options, mark just that :
Hide cables when dragging modules.
Transparent: all but current modules.
W10x64, bitwig 2.4

16 steps seq
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ige3hw0dbsjf8 ... binet?dl=0

No, this doesn't help me at all

What screen (resolution) do you have?

And thanks for the link!

Whywhy · Post by **Whywhy** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:28 pm

3840×2160 4k monitor
Voltage modular:
750×750
Standard pixel density
Zoom : normal: 100

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:30 pm

BTW, I found that for standalone application you can right-click the icon, go into properties / compatibility and there disable the high DPI options, which forces it to run in lower resolution and then the scrolling is buttery smooth.

Wish I could do this in Bitwig (or Studio One 4, where it's also choppy)...

Cherry Audio, maybe you could add an option to disable high-DPI support? I prefer it slightly blurry to choppy

And BTW2 - the MIDI Input module seems like it uses low-res assets when compared to everything else:

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:18 pm

Whywhy wrote:save as a cabinet

What and how do we do this?

Theres the empty Cabinet section in the browser.......thats all I know

Whywhy · Post by **Whywhy** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:54 pm

In the principal ui, where you connect your modules, you can right click and save, copy delete a row, a cabinet, after that, it's like a row preset, you can load it when you want via the cabinet section. Really useful for save ideas, make poly synth, load a full raw of modules....
I have some cabinets for generators, tools, seq.......

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:01 pm

Whywhy wrote:In the principal ui, where you connect your modules, you can right click and save, copy delete a row, a cabinet, after that, it's like a row preset, you can load it when you want via the cabinet section. Really useful for save ideas, make poly synth, load a full raw of modules....
I have some cabinets for generators, tools, seq.......

republik · Post by **republik** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:27 pm

The Digi Drums are available and now. They’re pretty simple modulation-wise but the sample options are good.

It’s awesome to hear that they are working on new modules too. I got the PSP collection so at this point there are a lot of options for filters and effects. Once this is officially released and I can get my hands on the module developer I’ve got a few module ideas I’d like to take a stab at.

FWIW, I’m excited to see more modules like

- oscillators
- distortion/saturation
- sequencers

cherryMitch · Post by **cherryMitch** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:10 am

lnikj wrote:
discoDSP wrote:Hm, quite interesting. Modular is a bit of niche market but wish them booming sales.
Tell that to the 14.5k members of the VCV Facebook group. Software modulars are rapidly growing in popularity.

@cherryMitch - thanks for your clarifications to my earlier questions. If I may ask another ..

How many audio ins and outs does it have? Does it have midi out? Does it have OSC in and out?

In this new software modular world the best way for them all to coexist and thrive is if they can all talk to each other. Reaktor is very flexible but Softube Modular is unfortunately somewhat lacking in the playing nicely with others department, and I doubt Pulsar is as well, so this may be something you can leverage.

It has eight audio outs and four ins. There are MIDI in and out modules, as well as a CV to MIDI module; with these modules, you can transmit module notes/CV's to other virtual instruments or to external hardware. No OSC at present, but I suspect we'll keep adding more modules that let you interface with other gear... we're all for that.

robotgard · Post by **robotgard** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:50 am

Now $ 150.

Cherry Audio Voltage modular