august contest - GOSSIP
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- KVRAF
- 2401 posts since 29 Dec, 2002 from In the dark
OK no jaaath and no thoundthcaped. klathikal kitah allowed?
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- KVRAF
- 2401 posts since 29 Dec, 2002 from In the dark
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- KVRAF
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
You Thirst.tharlukar wrote:Can evewebody pweath thake the lithp out uv their keyboardth bethaw typing a komment?
DTHP
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- KVRAF
- 2495 posts since 18 May, 2004 from ATL-USA
Sorry to break up the lame joke, but here are some reviews:
Donkey T - It sounds like this song has a lot of dynamic potential, but it is squashed too much. I like how the words fit in the music. When I first read your post and the lyrics, I was very curious to see how you were going to use those words in a rythmic way. Nice arrangement! The melody is very melodramatic, but I love that stuff.
DuncanParsons - I can definitly hear the TMBG influence. It's a very interesting listen, and quite different. The vocals could use a low pass filter to fit it in more. I like the epiano sound, but a lot of the other sounds are so-so.
Wopelka I dig this one! The feeling is great, definitly the best I've heard from you in the comps so far. It might even gain a bit more feeling if you slowed it down a teeny teeny bit. Not much to criticise here, it's sweet
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Mr. Me - Nice little groove. I didn't like how it had the harder gritier sounds in the beginning and then it goes to that note held out for a while and then into something softer in texture. My brain was kinda expecting the opposite, which maybe was the intention?? Overall good tune and mix.
Beardedone - It's always a mental journey when I listen to your tunes
. I would like to hear a more uppity bassline to this, something in the style of Jaco 
. It sounds like the drums are quite compressed, which takes over in the mix. Overall it is well produced.
Blue Days - Didn't really enjoy this one, but I did like certain aspects of it. I like how you blended the voice (although to loud). The reverbs are crazy extreme, yet work. The ending, as mentioned is too abrubt and kinda leaves you hangi..
Farlukar - Strange song. I like the vocal blurbulings. I think I dig it because it sounds NOW, or maybe even future now. Good mix.
Fst - Another song with an 808 clap, but used sparingly so it slides. The guitar parts are killer, even if they are fake. In general, this song really didn't do it for me, but it was well done and I enjoyed that.
Bring em on...
Donkey T - It sounds like this song has a lot of dynamic potential, but it is squashed too much. I like how the words fit in the music. When I first read your post and the lyrics, I was very curious to see how you were going to use those words in a rythmic way. Nice arrangement! The melody is very melodramatic, but I love that stuff.
DuncanParsons - I can definitly hear the TMBG influence. It's a very interesting listen, and quite different. The vocals could use a low pass filter to fit it in more. I like the epiano sound, but a lot of the other sounds are so-so.
Wopelka I dig this one! The feeling is great, definitly the best I've heard from you in the comps so far. It might even gain a bit more feeling if you slowed it down a teeny teeny bit. Not much to criticise here, it's sweet
.Mr. Me - Nice little groove. I didn't like how it had the harder gritier sounds in the beginning and then it goes to that note held out for a while and then into something softer in texture. My brain was kinda expecting the opposite, which maybe was the intention?? Overall good tune and mix.
Beardedone - It's always a mental journey when I listen to your tunes
. I would like to hear a more uppity bassline to this, something in the style of Jaco . It sounds like the drums are quite compressed, which takes over in the mix. Overall it is well produced.Blue Days - Didn't really enjoy this one, but I did like certain aspects of it. I like how you blended the voice (although to loud). The reverbs are crazy extreme, yet work. The ending, as mentioned is too abrubt and kinda leaves you hangi..
Farlukar - Strange song. I like the vocal blurbulings. I think I dig it because it sounds NOW, or maybe even future now. Good mix.
Fst - Another song with an 808 clap, but used sparingly so it slides. The guitar parts are killer, even if they are fake. In general, this song really didn't do it for me, but it was well done and I enjoyed that
.Bring em on...
Anti-aliasing is for "synthmonk%ys".
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- Narcissistic Messiah
- 4565 posts since 8 Apr, 2002 from https://soundcloud.com/remcoh
hey Wopelka !
cool use of these lines !
wonderfull execution with the rainpipes and all
the rhytmprogramming is superb
the harmony`s surprising
the singing sweet
one question - on what daw are you working ?
i think the tune can be improved by :
seperating sound with some smart panning / eq / compression / amp sim (not the overdrive method some use for there guits)
the drums can be made a bit more solid and punchy by applying different eq per drumsound (a reason why i often use seperated short samples devided over different audiochannels. in this way i can use send effects for the overall drumtrack and seperated effects for seperated sample optimalisation. I sometimes make a 3d freq model of the drums - check out in which frequency area's it performs. add distortion. check out a 3d freq model of the drums with distortion. use a equalizer to boost the freq area in the mid section and bass section. cut off the low rumble in the - 40 hz section. use bass fatteners. I try to keep in mind ... a drum set always stands in one room so when you want a life feel make sure you don't use reverbs on only the hats or only the snare but try to see the drum track as one instrument. another thing... a hard drum can completely push away all the other sounds ... so lately i started using compression on drums. unfortunately my own mixes are never sublime either... but that is more because I am an easily stiff bored hyperactive rat jumping from one thing to another on a 10 minutes timeline.
cool use of these lines !
wonderfull execution with the rainpipes and all
the rhytmprogramming is superb
the harmony`s surprising
the singing sweet
one question - on what daw are you working ?
i think the tune can be improved by :
seperating sound with some smart panning / eq / compression / amp sim (not the overdrive method some use for there guits)
the drums can be made a bit more solid and punchy by applying different eq per drumsound (a reason why i often use seperated short samples devided over different audiochannels. in this way i can use send effects for the overall drumtrack and seperated effects for seperated sample optimalisation. I sometimes make a 3d freq model of the drums - check out in which frequency area's it performs. add distortion. check out a 3d freq model of the drums with distortion. use a equalizer to boost the freq area in the mid section and bass section. cut off the low rumble in the - 40 hz section. use bass fatteners. I try to keep in mind ... a drum set always stands in one room so when you want a life feel make sure you don't use reverbs on only the hats or only the snare but try to see the drum track as one instrument. another thing... a hard drum can completely push away all the other sounds ... so lately i started using compression on drums. unfortunately my own mixes are never sublime either... but that is more because I am an easily stiff bored hyperactive rat jumping from one thing to another on a 10 minutes timeline.
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- KVRAF
- 3266 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
Freeztar wrote:Wopelka I dig this one! The feeling is great, definitly the best I've heard from you in the comps so far. It might even gain a bit more feeling if you slowed it down a teeny teeny bit. Not much to criticise here, it's sweet
thanks a lot
i must say i'm quite happy with this one, even though the production and mix could have been better (as Remco's post shows well).
about the BPM. when i composed the music, i worked in a slower tempo. i had to slightly increase the speed due to the 2min rule. it's funny that you noticed the fact
cheers
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- KVRAF
- 3266 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
Emerald Tablet wrote:hey Wopelka !
cool use of these lines !
wonderfull execution with the rainpipes and all
the rhytmprogramming is superb
the harmony`s surprising
the singing sweet
one question - on what daw are you working ?
i think the tune can be improved by :
seperating sound with some smart panning / eq / compression / amp sim (not the overdrive method some use for there guits)
cheers Remco
i'm glad you like the use of your lines. i wasn't sure the feel of the song was really appropriate, but if the author finds it cool, i'm relieved.
thanks for sharing some tips, too. there are always things that can be improved. i'm quite an impatient rat, too. this one has been made in 8 hours and i wasn't able to let my ears rest a little before mastering...
about the DAW question. i'm not familiar with this term, but i guess it refers to the sequencing tools. i did the song in FL Studio, and then i recorded the vocals in Sonar - my usual way of working.
BTW, here are the instruments i used for this track:
a couple of free sf2 for bass and drums (ns_kit7), EVE (the nasty lead), Quantum64 (the little sound over the lead), Cameleon5000 (pizz strings), rhino2 (the rain-like pad), and daOrgan (for the organ sound obviously).
cheers
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- KVRAF
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
I've decided to do my reviews in Cups of Tea - from 100%CoT (compleatly (sic) my Cup of Tea) to -100%CoT (that's not my Cup of Tea), through 0%COT (total ambivalence). A CoT rating is purely personal and doesn't mean it's a superb or poor piece (it's more to do with taste), don't shoot the message source! My comments will flesh out what I think of the sound, etc!
Donk 48%CoT
I like the strings! Seems rather swimming with the reverb, but the effect is effective . The vox remind me of Peter Gabriel actually. Can't make head nor tail of what you're actually singing about, even with the lyrith pothted, still thath wok'n'woll!
Freeztar 52%CoT
The 1st part reminds me a little of the 'Girl from Ipanema', the 2nd part is great - very Rio! You've captured the feel very well. The vocals work well, and sound very natural. Did you do the harmony as well? [Sometimes I have done harmony parts in falsetto with a little chorus.. I'm not saying it works!!] I like the violin thing too.
Wopelka 58%CoT
Sounds very World Musicky. Reminds me of stuff that came out in the early/mid 80's, I used to quite like some of it (still do tbh!). The percussion is just right, and the organ is effective with the vox. The PanPipe(?) is hilarious (in a good way). I really liked this.
mr.me 47%CoT
Are you a fan of bands like Japan and that ilk, by any small chance? I like the kick drum sound - very simple, but effective. The melody draws you in really nicely. Good piece.
Beardedone 85%CoT
As ever, this is really cool. Sounds like it could be incidental music for a blaxploitation flik. Can't say much more than that - deeply 70's urban is what I hear!
BlueDays 28%CoT
A good sound overall. Must confess I haven't heard the original, but I can guess the parts that are yours, and those that are DTs. That 'Tape ran out while recording' effect at the end is disappointing, but you had your reasons, I guess.
farlukar 35%CoT
Nice to see an ogg. I would do mine in ogg (smaller file, better quality), but since everyone complains, and I have limited web space, I guess I duck out! Anyway onto bithneth. Yeth, I'd thay ith jaaaaath, and thome oth thoth thoundth are a bit pequooliar.. Within it's context, it's a master stroke, and well executed. The snare is well mixed and sounds very alive.
fst 32%CoT
Nice groove. Those distorted guitars/synths seem slightly over done to me, but maybe that's just the speakers I'm listening on. Reminds me of summers in the late 80's. Fromage seems appropriate!
bastien 38%CoT
ooooh daaaaark! A friend of mine used to do stuff like this around the early 90's with a PolySix and CS30 on his PortaStudio. It's a really effective kind of soundscape (oh dear, are you allowed to do that???? ) I get an image of a dark, damp alley, or a foggy woodland at night. Very atmospheric.
Donk 48%CoT
I like the strings! Seems rather swimming with the reverb, but the effect is effective
. The vox remind me of Peter Gabriel actually. Can't make head nor tail of what you're actually singing about, even with the lyrith pothted, still thath wok'n'woll!Freeztar 52%CoT
The 1st part reminds me a little of the 'Girl from Ipanema', the 2nd part is great - very Rio! You've captured the feel very well. The vocals work well, and sound very natural. Did you do the harmony as well? [Sometimes I have done harmony parts in falsetto with a little chorus.. I'm not saying it works!!] I like the violin thing too.
Wopelka 58%CoT
Sounds very World Musicky. Reminds me of stuff that came out in the early/mid 80's, I used to quite like some of it (still do tbh!). The percussion is just right, and the organ is effective with the vox. The PanPipe(?) is hilarious (in a good way). I really liked this.
mr.me 47%CoT
Are you a fan of bands like Japan and that ilk, by any small chance? I like the kick drum sound - very simple, but effective. The melody draws you in really nicely. Good piece.
Beardedone 85%CoT
As ever, this is really cool. Sounds like it could be incidental music for a blaxploitation flik. Can't say much more than that - deeply 70's urban is what I hear!
BlueDays 28%CoT
A good sound overall. Must confess I haven't heard the original, but I can guess the parts that are yours, and those that are DTs. That 'Tape ran out while recording' effect at the end is disappointing, but you had your reasons, I guess.
farlukar 35%CoT
Nice to see an ogg. I would do mine in ogg (smaller file, better quality), but since everyone complains, and I have limited web space, I guess I duck out! Anyway onto bithneth. Yeth, I'd thay ith jaaaaath, and thome oth thoth thoundth are a bit pequooliar.. Within it's context, it's a master stroke, and well executed. The snare is well mixed and sounds very alive.
fst 32%CoT
Nice groove. Those distorted guitars/synths seem slightly over done to me, but maybe that's just the speakers I'm listening on. Reminds me of summers in the late 80's. Fromage seems appropriate!
bastien 38%CoT
ooooh daaaaark! A friend of mine used to do stuff like this around the early 90's with a PolySix and CS30 on his PortaStudio. It's a really effective kind of soundscape (oh dear, are you allowed to do that????
) I get an image of a dark, damp alley, or a foggy woodland at night. Very atmospheric.-
- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Reverb?duncanparsons wrote:
Donk 48%CoT
I like the strings! Seems rather swimming with the reverb, but the effect is effective
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Peter Gabriel? 
Actually there's hardly f**k all reverb on it (wee smidgeon on the strings and main vocal, even less on the electric guit and drums), I think you may be confused by the over the top delay effect in the middle 8 there!
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- KVRAF
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
Oh, yes, that must have been it!donkey tugger wrote:Reverb?duncanparsons wrote: Donk 48%CoT
I like the strings! Seems rather swimming with the reverb, but the effect is effective
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Actually there's hardly f**k all reverb on it (wee smidgeon on the strings and main vocal, even less on the electric guit and drums), I think you may be confused by the over the top delay effect in the middle 8 there!
DSP
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- KVRAF
- 2093 posts since 19 Jun, 2003 from UTM 18 317254E 4295335N (WGS84/NAD83)
I had this rush of ideas lately but I'm not sure what to submit... I've got about 13 song starts waiting for me to go back and finish. What would you rather hear: bad indy protest rock, half-assed sedentary trip-hop, crummy latin-tinged lo-fi, dodgy electro-space folk or sloppy IDMental? Not that it would sound anything like the aforementioned styles. I don't do styles very well. I'm just feeling ambivalent.
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- KVRAF
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
Do an Ambivalent soundscape!You™ wrote:I had this rush of ideas lately but I'm not sure what to submit... I've got about 13 song starts waiting for me to go back and finish. What would you rather hear: bad indy protest rock, half-assed sedentary trip-hop, crummy latin-tinged lo-fi, dodgy electro-space folk or sloppy IDMental? Not that it would sound anything like the aforementioned styles. I don't do styles very well. I'm just feeling ambivalent.
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- KVRAF
- 2093 posts since 19 Jun, 2003 from UTM 18 317254E 4295335N (WGS84/NAD83)
Then that's what it will be.duncanparsons wrote:Do an Ambivalent soundscape!You™ wrote:I had this rush of ideas lately but I'm not sure what to submit... I've got about 13 song starts waiting for me to go back and finish. What would you rather hear: bad indy protest rock, half-assed sedentary trip-hop, crummy latin-tinged lo-fi, dodgy electro-space folk or sloppy IDMental? Not that it would sound anything like the aforementioned styles. I don't do styles very well. I'm just feeling ambivalent.
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- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 8 Apr, 2004
I vote for "crummy latin-tinged lo-fi"... but if it's not "crummy" then you should be disqualified... ...
Ben
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