Kazrog True Iron

[mi-os]

Thanks for your suggestions. I don't have a dedicated saturation plugin yet. Im looking for something to complement bx_console SSL channel strip (got it some days ago).

I'd really like to use airwindows stuff, but don't want to build complicated plugin chains per channel.

[Ploki]

Well, Softube Analog Harmonics if you need a good sounding versatile straight up saturation.
Among my other favourites are Fuse Audio VPRE-2C, Voxengo Warmifier and VariSaturator and WavesFactory Spectre.

If i had to pick one it would be Spectre tho. Thankfully i don't cause i love em all

[mi-os]

Thanks. Checked Fuse Audio VPRE-2C and it sound very nice. But that wouldn't work per channel due to high cpu demands i think.

[FapFilter]

Among my other favourites are Fuse Audio VPRE-2C, Voxengo Warmifier and VariSaturator and WavesFactory Spectre.

fun fact: what i really dig about the VariSaturator is the digital part aka waveshaper which is said to be not too dissimilar sounding to the still ubiquitous Sonnox Inflator.
I don't own either though since i think i can still make do with the stuff i already own.

[3ee]

one thing i noticed is nasty aliasing above 15k... the mirrored frequencies are bad. worse than most of my saturators

There is this option: "zero latency" .. you must turn that OFF, it is tied to over-sampling, don't forget re-open session in order for the option to take effect.

reduces aliasing by quite a bit!
I would like to see in the future a selectable number for the over-sampling both for online and offline.

[sengoku]

Among my other favourites are Fuse Audio VPRE-2C, Voxengo Warmifier and VariSaturator and WavesFactory Spectre.

fun fact: what i really dig about the VariSaturator is the digital part aka waveshaper which is said to be not too dissimilar sounding to the still ubiquitous Sonnox Inflator.
I don't own either though since i think i can still make do with the stuff i already own.

i was under the impression the inflator was 3 band instead of 2 - but apart from that it seems to be a simple waveshaper with no oversampling, i got pretty close to nulling it with cableguys waveshapercm (in broadband mode) - but i really like the 3 band mode and nothing can reproduce that yet. if only sonnox stuff didn't have such annoying ilok rules

[sqigls]

i hear you.
Sonnox is the only company i need to plug in an ilok dongle for. hence i don't use them anymore.
hence i support companies like Kazrog

[Ploki]

I 'threw away' (gave away) my iLok dongle with PT11.
I only use software iLok stuff now.

so far so good - i was a very strong opponent for a while.
Then Gullfoss forced me to use it. And it opened a world of wonderful plugins to me

But i'm no way in hell using the dongle

[Iomegaman2]

I wonder if anyone has compared this to some of the newer UAD "mixing console" saturation in Luna?

[sambaji]

Out of all the saturators I have, True Iron often sounds the best (I don't have a fancy saturator such as Fabfilter's Saturn). What I particularly like how True Iron adds girth to the lows while brightening up the whole mix. I tend to use it with Crush off, Amount set lower (e.g., no more than 7), 5 is the default which is closest to the saturation added by emulated transformers, and the Mix on max. I tend to saturate group bus or individual tracks rather than the mix bus so that I have more control over how much and what type for each instrument group. When bouncing or mastering disable zero-latency to enable over-sampling to minimize aliasing. Interesting when first using True Iron, I often couldn't hear what it was doing without pushing the amount to the extreme. Now after some time of using the plugin, my listening has improved to where I can notice subtle changes at lower levels. As a side note, I also really like Voxengo's saturation plugins that I have demoed.

[elektrastudio]

Out of all the saturators I have, True Iron often sounds the best (I don't have a fancy saturator such as Fabfilter's Saturn). What I particularly like how True Iron adds girth to the lows while brightening up the whole mix. I tend to use it with Crush off, Amount set lower (e.g., no more than 7), 5 is the default which is closest to the saturation added by emulated transformers, and the Mix on max. I tend to saturate group bus or individual tracks rather than the mix bus so that I have more control over how much and what type for each instrument group. When bouncing or mastering disable zero-latency to enable over-sampling to minimize aliasing. Interesting when first using True Iron, I often couldn't hear what it was doing without pushing the amount to the extreme. Now after some time of using the plugin, my listening has improved to where I can notice subtle changes at lower levels. As a side note, I also really like Voxengo's saturation plugins that I have demoed.

I am in your previous position cuz i still can't hear subtle changes yet. But, I hear Saturn saturation. Even with Saturn, True Iron is still a very quick solution while you're producing. Thanks for the tips too

[pawder]

Out of all the saturators I have, True Iron often sounds the best (I don't have a fancy saturator such as Fabfilter's Saturn). What I particularly like how True Iron adds girth to the lows while brightening up the whole mix. I tend to use it with Crush off, Amount set lower (e.g., no more than 7), 5 is the default which is closest to the saturation added by emulated transformers, and the Mix on max. I tend to saturate group bus or individual tracks rather than the mix bus so that I have more control over how much and what type for each instrument group. When bouncing or mastering disable zero-latency to enable over-sampling to minimize aliasing. Interesting when first using True Iron, I often couldn't hear what it was doing without pushing the amount to the extreme. Now after some time of using the plugin, my listening has improved to where I can notice subtle changes at lower levels. As a side note, I also really like Voxengo's saturation plugins that I have demoed.

I am in your previous position cuz i still can't hear subtle changes yet. But, I hear Saturn saturation. Even with Saturn, True Iron is still a very quick solution while you're producing. Thanks for the tips too

I also struggle to hear a big difference when I gain match it. In the videos I saw it was easy to hear, because no one matched the output, but when u match it the difference feels not as impactful as I thought it would be, reading all that praise for this plugin

[bFooz]

I also struggle to hear a big difference when I gain match it. In the videos I saw it was easy to hear, because no one matched the output, but when u match it the difference feels not as impactful as I thought it would be, reading all that praise for this plugin

This is me as well. I've read all this forum because of that, what other have experienced. I watched a few minutes of the WhiteSea video but he does not gain match and calls it a "wow".

Maybe I need to listen more. But then what is the purpose if only a trained sound person can hear the difference.

[LeVzi]

I couldnt hear fk all off youtube tbh

But I have it and I can hear the difference on my monitors.

[PieBerger]

I also struggle to hear a big difference when I gain match it. In the videos I saw it was easy to hear, because no one matched the output, but when u match it the difference feels not as impactful as I thought it would be, reading all that praise for this plugin

This is me as well. I've read all this forum because of that, what other have experienced. I watched a few minutes of the WhiteSea video but he does not gain match and calls it a "wow".

Maybe I need to listen more. But then what is the purpose if only a trained sound person can hear the difference.

I can't really hear it unless I push it hard and since it's not easy to bypass multiple plugins in Bitwig/Live, it's difficult to hear how it affects the mix as a whole with it on multiple channels. I could probably sell it on now and not miss it.