Soundtoys 6 - What would you like to see?

[SeeingInMidi]

Tell that to countless of engineers who have been using tons of aliasing plugins for the past two decades that mixing isn't for them. Goodbye Gudwin, Scheps... No more mixing itb for you Serban Ghenea, there's too much aliasing in all those top 40 charting tracks that you have mixed. Don't get me started on that new Beck record, too much aliasing... at the end of the day, aliasing or not, it all comes down to the mixer.

Can you please show me where did they use plugins that alias? Honestly, I would love to see that. I only know Dave Pensado tried Decapitator couple of times in his show and on end always used his hw for saturation.

You're on the internet, you should know how to use google. I did a quick search and even found out Benny Blanco loves decapitator.

Edit: wait, do you really believe that engineers solely rely on hardware for harmonic generation? https://equipboard.com/items/soundtoys-decapitator

[HcDoom]

I want to see that they really used Decapitator on their mixes, not a one word sentence: its great...means nothing.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Plugins that alias have been used on countless mixes going back a long ways now. Even on many great mixes. Doesn't mean the plugins couldn't be improved. Doesn't mean the plugins or mixes aren't "pro."

Why do some people think things only be the best or totally suck? What in the world is ever that black and white? The SoundToys plugins sound good, but could be even better with some optional oversampling IMO. If you think aliasing is great and the plugins have no room for improvement, or that aliasing makes these plugins "not pro" and total crap, then you probably need to stop and do a quick reality check.

[SeeingInMidi]

I want to see that they really used Decapitator on their mixes, not a one word sentence: its great...means nothing.

really

Plugins that alias have been used on countless mixes going back a long ways now. Even on many great mixes. Doesn't mean the plugins couldn't be improved. Doesn't mean the plugins or mixes aren't "pro."

Why do some people think things only be the best or totally suck? What in the world is ever that black and white? The SoundToys plugins sound good, but could be even better with some optional oversampling IMO. If you think aliasing is great and the plugins have no room for improvement, or that aliasing makes these plugins "not pro" and total crap, then you probably need to stop and do a quick reality check.

I agree. My problem is that from reading the discussions on here, I feel like people will send plugins through plugin doctor and do a bunch of aliasing tests and dismiss the plugin if aliasing occurs. Then the sentiment becomes "lets resort to hardware".

[abi]

I would love to see a soundtoys compressor that is as flexible as their delay...like the hornets multicomp. Or some saturation toolbox like contemporary colour...
A dedicated chorus/flanger plugin, some obscure vinatge eqs....i dont expect them to release something bad, love their stuff although i use some of them regularly and others seldom to never.

I understand that the full price looks steep, but they do good sales (i upgraded from collecting their little plugins and paying then 160 dollars). On Black Friday they sell the bundle regularly for 249, single plugins are at times discounted to 49 dollars (which seems ok for something like echoboy or decapitator).

[jens]

Or some saturation toolbox like contemporary colour...

Isn't that exactly what Decapitator is?

(Of course it's not like Contemporary Colour because CC isn't really what I would call "a saturation toolbox" - it's very much its own thing so I don't think there's an adequate category/descriptive term for it)

[abi]

Or some saturation toolbox like contemporary colour...

Isn't that exactly what Decapitator is?

(Of course it's not like Contemporary Colour because CC isn't really what I would call "a saturation toolbox" - it's very much its own thing so I don't think there's an adequate category/descriptive term for it)

yes, decapitator is kind of a saturation toolbox, but it‘s saturation is quite extreme compared to something like karacter, analog design black box or contemporary colour.

[jens]

Nonono - it can be super subtle!

[abi]

Nonono - it can be super subtle!

Might be! Still I´d like another option...it somehow always sounds "rough" compared to other options.

[jens]

Well, this will always be a matter of taste. If you prefer other options then that is certainly fair enough - and it's also fair enough to say you wish for them to make a different Saturation plugin (they actually already have one with Radiator b.t.w. but that one is more of a one-trick-pony)...

I was about to keep writing "but...", but actually there's no but here, even if I disagree with your verdict.

[abi]

Well, this will always be a matter of taste. If you prefer other options then that is certainly fair enough - and it's also fair enough to say you wish for them to make a different Saturation plugin (they actually already have one with Radiator b.t.w. but that one is more of a one-trick-pony)...

I was about to keep writing "but...", but actually there's no but here, even if I disagree with your verdict.

it‘s just about what one would like to see! of course there‘s tons of other options already available (god knows i don’t need more compressor, saturation or eq plugins)...maybe it doesn’t sound creative but that’s what i think

[abi]

and radiator can be nice but i definitely belongs to the sountoys plugins i use seldomly. just as you said, kind of a one trick pony...

another nice thing would be a new version of filter freak with more filter choices. I don‘t know if i‘m too sentimental about this, but I still think of the EmulatorX filters. It‘s been a long time since I used them, but the variety is also unmatched I would say. And the sound quality was also overwhelming, at the time at least.

[zentatonic]

Echoboy 2
Decapitator 2
4x oversampling
full Plate

[yellowmix]

A big version of Little Plate with their special touch, like the infinite mode in it. Would love a feedback loop with a pitch shifter in it. Or even better, allow any Soundtoy within it.

Bringing a treasured analog device like PrimalTap to the digital realm, that does something really interesting.

Making the Rack more useful, where there is a global set of modulation that can be assigned to individual devices. LFO, Envelopes, envelope followers, rhythmic sequences like in Echoboy.

Making Echoboy a bit more modular, where we can insert other Soundtoys in the feedback loop. Would also like more control on the stereo feedback routing.

Little Alterchoir, 3 or more voices individually tuned for harmonies or chorus, with modulation options.

[Elektronisch]

I want to see that they really used Decapitator on their mixes, not a one word sentence: its great...means nothing.

Uhm why? Have you heard the saying "if it sounds good then its good"? Its a distortion plugin and it can be used just as well for sound design as fot a sublte saturation.