Favorite granular effect?

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chrisstiles wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:02 pm
Ah_Dziz wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:33 am I'm a big fan of salty grain or reaktor for most stuff. I use crusher x when I gotta get super crazy. My issue with most of the real-time buffer granulizer effects out there is that most of them won't let you generate grains fast enough or or small enough to achieve many of the stranger sounds that are possible with granular delays.
Which Granular delays would you suggest looking at ?
To get the "most" exciting sounds from granular stuff I would definitely recommend reaktor or anything that allows for triggering grains at audio rates. This makes the window function for each grain have a far greater impact than at lower rates. Tons of fun stuff can be done with the standard grain delay and grain sampler inside Reaktor.

You can play with attempting to find the input frequency and then playing around with that to make auto tune type processing. But if you can find a good way to find the fundamental frequency of your input...... Then you can do lots of silly stuff reminiscent of like Waves' Ovox or "the mouth". I have been working on building some janky "broken autotune" stuff in my Nord G2 just as an exercise to see how well I can extract the "pitch and performance data" from my voice in a way that's useful for controlling synths. I'm mostly stealing from the amazing work of Tim Kleinert. That guy is crazy good at tweaking digital systems for fun sounds.
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I would honestly say get "Salty Grains" for most standard granulated delay buffer effects. And then if you really want to dig deep, get crusher-x or reaktor. All the normal "granular sounds" that you would think of (freezing time, pitch shifting, etc) are easily done with "salty grains". When you want really hardcore control of each grain in a massive cloud of them, then crusher will allow you to do that.

Aside from those two extremes, you can use lots of sample based synths to do all types of dirty things to your grains with relatively inexpensive tools like "padshop" or "pigments" and many others. Granular synthesis covers a whole lot of sonic ground so....... You can do a while lot once you get past "stuttering buffers", "pitch shifting", and super "smeared time" effects.

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i wanna do a experiment, what's the best granular tool for that?
i have a drum and a guitar track.
the granular fx slowly fading into the guitar track, and the drum track is generating and sending a envelope of itself as cc to the granular fx of the guitar track, modulating its grainsize maybe?
so that in the end it makes rythmical sense somehow?
should i try the arturia one?
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@Ah_Dziz: Do you like that new filter per grain feature in SaltyGrain? Pretty cool for more organic & dynamic textures.

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I am still halfway using my old and new system side by side. I grabbed the update but haven't installed it yet. I can't imagine that any of the smartelectronix folks would have botched it though. I feel like lots of people have slipped up by not having a "full" parameter set per grain when it was available in stuff like grannylab when I was just starting out. I can't wait to play with it especially in something like Bitwig with all the built in mod stuff.
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greententacle wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:33 am i wanna do a experiment, what's the best granular tool for that?
i have a drum and a guitar track.
the granular fx slowly fading into the guitar track, and the drum track is generating and sending a envelope of itself as cc to the granular fx of the guitar track, modulating its grainsize maybe?
so that in the end it makes rythmical sense somehow?
should i try the arturia one?
I would definitely use something like reaktor or maybe max to make something that applies for a very specific situation like this.
I'm excited that lots of the "big companies" are making granular tools now, but they still seem to be treating each plugin kind of like a "one off" subset of granular features instead of just doing a giant robust implementation that covers a very large range of what can be accomplished with granular synthesis.
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the rythmic 'footsteps' as someone called it 'extracted' by Silo;

also Crusher-X is used, a recording from standalone. basis of the track, added Abyss (non-granular...).

so double granular;

https://soundcloud.com/sada-exposada/th ... -of-clocae

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nonstatic wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 6:58 pm Just going to mention SaltyGrain because it's been around for 10 years or so (around 20 if you count its freeware predecessor). No fancy grain window, but here's the obligatory Richard Devine preset showcase extravaganza:
what is the name of the free version?
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KT granulator, i guess
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Download SOphist wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:25 pm KT granulator, i guess
i found it, thanks
i try to get everything granular, everything decent at least, i am just so addicted to textures and stuff
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martiu wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:17 pm
Download SOphist wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:25 pm KT granulator, i guess
i found it, thanks
i try to get everything granular, everything decent at least, i am just so addicted to textures and stuff
Can you post the link please?

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killmaster wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:29 pm
martiu wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:17 pm
Download SOphist wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:25 pm KT granulator, i guess
i found it, thanks
i try to get everything granular, everything decent at least, i am just so addicted to textures and stuff
Can you post the link please?
It was send to me, wait i will send you pm with link, i uploaded it in archive.
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martiu wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:35 pm
killmaster wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:29 pm
martiu wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:17 pm
Download SOphist wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:25 pm KT granulator, i guess
i found it, thanks
i try to get everything granular, everything decent at least, i am just so addicted to textures and stuff
Can you post the link please?
It was send to me, wait i will send you pm with link, i uploaded it in archive.
Thanks so much and sorry to trouble you about it!

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killmaster wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:17 am
martiu wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:35 pm
killmaster wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:29 pm
martiu wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:17 pm
Download SOphist wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:25 pm KT granulator, i guess
i found it, thanks
i try to get everything granular, everything decent at least, i am just so addicted to textures and stuff
Can you post the link please?
It was send to me, wait i will send you pm with link, i uploaded it in archive.
Thanks so much and sorry to trouble you about it!
No trouble at all, enjoy.
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