I have this dream about you experimentalists being considered so progressive and groundbreaking that they want you to be the first to colonize Mars. Hopefully not within a too distant future.jancivil wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:32 pm there has to be a movie with a cautionary tale about cloning nerds somewhere
Cadences in Electronic Music & EDM
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- Banned
- 995 posts since 4 Feb, 2021
Tribe Of Hǫfuð https://soundcloud.com/user-228690154 "First rule: From one perfect consonance to another perfect consonance one must proceed in contrary or oblique motion." Johann Joseph Fux 1725.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
be careful what you wish for
ya know, Zappa started out wanting to blow shit up before he got interested in music.
fun fact: I was expelled once in jr high for terrorist activity
self-censored quasi-political reference, er, joke
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- addled muppet weed
- 111237 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
yeah
thats nothing like the one from the film
thats more like a progression of jefferson airplane, than a complete rebrand.
it may have been completely new members even
ill have to find the album somewhere
sounds like a nice, sittin out the back record
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
it didn't go over with their old following, or much of anybody but hardcore acid people. really an outlier from the music business, a few committed radicals, the wind that blows against the empire... heinlein inspiration, I don't know anything really about that.
I got it when it was new.
it's crosby and nash, and garcia with kantner and slick, and casady. somebody playing basic piano prob kantner.
Jack Casady is the big thing for me on the record
I got it when it was new.
it's crosby and nash, and garcia with kantner and slick, and casady. somebody playing basic piano prob kantner.
Jack Casady is the big thing for me on the record
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- addled muppet weed
- 111237 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i love graces voice when she really belts it too!
weird it didnt go down with the old crowd, looking back, and not really being part of the scene obviously, to me it just sounds like a more full on white rabbit vibe, with as you mention, a huge hendrix influence!
speaking of hendrix and basses, did you know he played bass on leary's "you can be anyone you want this time around" the album he did running for cali governor (iirc?)
weird it didnt go down with the old crowd, looking back, and not really being part of the scene obviously, to me it just sounds like a more full on white rabbit vibe, with as you mention, a huge hendrix influence!
speaking of hendrix and basses, did you know he played bass on leary's "you can be anyone you want this time around" the album he did running for cali governor (iirc?)
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I did not. speakin' of hendrix and basses, noel redding sucked. All Along the Watchtower, it's JH on bass, note the difference.
marty balin is absent from this record, for me everything he did was a detriment, it always tied it down to pop sensibilities. the group known by most by this name is balin's group largely, may as well be Journey to me.
marty balin is absent from this record, for me everything he did was a detriment, it always tied it down to pop sensibilities. the group known by most by this name is balin's group largely, may as well be Journey to me.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111237 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
jancivil wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:11 pm I did not. speakin' of hendrix and basses, noel redding sucked. All Along the Watchtower, it's JH on bass, note the difference.
being a little high...when you said, noel redding, my brain went noel fielding, surrealist comedian.
and i was thinking he's not old enough, she's mixed that up!
im so glad, i realised before posting and calling you out
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I've seen a number of videos of the Jimi Hendrix Experience live, and honestly this is one of the worst bass players I have ever heard outside of say Sex Pistols or something very rank and shitty in intent. He was really a shit guitar player that switched to bass to get this gig. I do NOT get how he's hired. (that fro, one supposes.) abysmal sound, he sounds like when we were 14 in Robdog's parents basement, I don't think he knew how to intonate the thing, just what in the world is he doing there.
He had a really poor attitude and talked a lot of smack throughout so I'm looking at it with a jaded filter, but objectively he's not added value, let's just say. And somehow he lobbied successfully to get his shitty song or songs on Axis.
JH was very happy to get his old army buddy in, Billy Cox who was a good pick for the role.
He had a really poor attitude and talked a lot of smack throughout so I'm looking at it with a jaded filter, but objectively he's not added value, let's just say. And somehow he lobbied successfully to get his shitty song or songs on Axis.
JH was very happy to get his old army buddy in, Billy Cox who was a good pick for the role.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111237 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
tbh, i don't think ive ever paid much attention to noel and mitch when listening to hendrix, jimi has always pretty much "demanded" focus.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
told this before I'm sure
I saw Hendrix May 9, 1969. I think it was the next day I had my drums lesson. My teacher had gone to the concert as well.
So he asks me did I think Chicago Transit Authority's drummer, Danny Seraphim, or Mitch Mitchell was the better drummer. The latter, clearly but he went with Seraphim for some reason. He's still wrong IME. Mitch Mitchell is a drummer in the mold of Elvin Jones, Mitchell was a motherf**ker par excellence.
so there's more than one reason I think redding is an outlier, doesn't belong, I don't get it. Could be corrupt management.
I got the strong sense JH was itching to get him gone for a while.
I saw Hendrix May 9, 1969. I think it was the next day I had my drums lesson. My teacher had gone to the concert as well.
So he asks me did I think Chicago Transit Authority's drummer, Danny Seraphim, or Mitch Mitchell was the better drummer. The latter, clearly but he went with Seraphim for some reason. He's still wrong IME. Mitch Mitchell is a drummer in the mold of Elvin Jones, Mitchell was a motherf**ker par excellence.
so there's more than one reason I think redding is an outlier, doesn't belong, I don't get it. Could be corrupt management.
I got the strong sense JH was itching to get him gone for a while.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111237 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
ive never drummed in my life
beyond some drunken tabla playing anyway
im sure he is great, well i kind of know he is, because ive read it, but as i say, never been my focus.
i don't even think with jimi, it was so much being the guitarist, but what he did with it, the fx work as much as finger technique, he opened doors for me looking at the sound design side of guitar. ive always loved that exploration of how far we can take it.
and jimi and a few others from the early psychedelia period were finding amazing new textures, with only 1 or 2 fairly basic fx.
there weren't many other respected guitarists, at least that i knew of as a young teen, who were doing that.
yes, i knew of others from records, but they were not "guitar greats" around here
as i left school and my circle of friends grew, it became easier to find people who were on my wavelength a little more
beyond some drunken tabla playing anyway
im sure he is great, well i kind of know he is, because ive read it, but as i say, never been my focus.
i don't even think with jimi, it was so much being the guitarist, but what he did with it, the fx work as much as finger technique, he opened doors for me looking at the sound design side of guitar. ive always loved that exploration of how far we can take it.
and jimi and a few others from the early psychedelia period were finding amazing new textures, with only 1 or 2 fairly basic fx.
there weren't many other respected guitarists, at least that i knew of as a young teen, who were doing that.
yes, i knew of others from records, but they were not "guitar greats" around here
as i left school and my circle of friends grew, it became easier to find people who were on my wavelength a little more
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
JH was basically Buddy Guy on acid.
I used to go to Reliable Pawn Shop (later a huge warehouse known as Reliable Music, Guitar Center but not corporate) to try and get hendrix things on a strat on marshalls. it never really materialized. But I moved from drums to lead guitar by the time I was 14. I was 12 when we went, my mother and I.
I wanted the drum part to Fire, he made me transcribe it and sort it, write it out as independent parts, kick, hat, snare etc. I had fully mastered Mary, Mary by the Monkees, you know.
I used to go to Reliable Pawn Shop (later a huge warehouse known as Reliable Music, Guitar Center but not corporate) to try and get hendrix things on a strat on marshalls. it never really materialized. But I moved from drums to lead guitar by the time I was 14. I was 12 when we went, my mother and I.
I wanted the drum part to Fire, he made me transcribe it and sort it, write it out as independent parts, kick, hat, snare etc. I had fully mastered Mary, Mary by the Monkees, you know.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
in those days, a gold Les Paul went for like $295, in the pawn shop anyway.
Melvin Cohen inherited a pawn shop and turned it into a musical equipment store. I think by this time the store had wildly exceeded pawn shop and pawned gear, these were not used instruments we'd try out. Someone gave me a nice strat before too long, we did not have money for 300 dollar guitars.
Melvin Cohen inherited a pawn shop and turned it into a musical equipment store. I think by this time the store had wildly exceeded pawn shop and pawned gear, these were not used instruments we'd try out. Someone gave me a nice strat before too long, we did not have money for 300 dollar guitars.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111237 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i started out playing banjo in a pub, at around 6?
sunday after church, all the gramps and grammas on the guinness, singing old irish folk and rebel songs, then occasionally grab a passing child, sit him or her down, get them strumming simple movable chords, or drumming on a bodhran, nothing fancy.
then puberty, around 11/12, girls liked guitars!
i wanted a guitar.
my uncle took my savings off me, for a shitty squier strat him and his friends had tried the hendrix thing with, so all the pots and the pup selector switch were melted in place.
my mum went mad. as did my grandparents. but hes a tosser, still.
that year, for xmas, they got together with one of my aunties, and bought me the epiphone sg thats sat next to me now
and a marlin amp.
both from argos, because this tiny town, had a music stall on the market, but they only had a few acoustics, but sold strings/plectrums and other spares.
there was a dawsons a bus ride away, but other than xmas and the summer fayre, we never went that way. and the other way, to lpool, that was a very rare treat until my later teens when i was allowed out alone to the city.
ive never owned a fancy guitar, i think my aria 12 is the fanciest? and that was given to me by a friend when she upgraded to some really expensive 12 string.
sunday after church, all the gramps and grammas on the guinness, singing old irish folk and rebel songs, then occasionally grab a passing child, sit him or her down, get them strumming simple movable chords, or drumming on a bodhran, nothing fancy.
then puberty, around 11/12, girls liked guitars!
i wanted a guitar.
my uncle took my savings off me, for a shitty squier strat him and his friends had tried the hendrix thing with, so all the pots and the pup selector switch were melted in place.
my mum went mad. as did my grandparents. but hes a tosser, still.
that year, for xmas, they got together with one of my aunties, and bought me the epiphone sg thats sat next to me now
and a marlin amp.
both from argos, because this tiny town, had a music stall on the market, but they only had a few acoustics, but sold strings/plectrums and other spares.
there was a dawsons a bus ride away, but other than xmas and the summer fayre, we never went that way. and the other way, to lpool, that was a very rare treat until my later teens when i was allowed out alone to the city.
ive never owned a fancy guitar, i think my aria 12 is the fanciest? and that was given to me by a friend when she upgraded to some really expensive 12 string.