Can you ever "warm" something up with digital?

[kvotchin]

Noise (saturation, distortion, etc,), instability (resembling pseudorandom modulation), compression, EQ (notably filtering). There is your “warmth”.

These are all available tools in the digital realm, not surprisingly.

Utter tripe!

Really now? Point out where I’m wrong, and it will be addressed, unless “utter tripe” and suchlike is all you have to offer.

[rod_zero]

I would trust people with scientific literacy first, those who can understand psycho acoustics, the implications of the sampling theorem, the physics of sound and the limits of the human hearing.

Many musicians romanticize stuff, get emotional about gear, I mean it is a craft and passion goes in to it but they really don't have a clue about physics and will buy an expensive cable because magic gnomes make it sound better.

[vurt]

gnomes are for tunneling.
faerie folk for magick cables.

[Unaspected]

Someone needs to make a digital audio warmer called, "Witch Tits".

[vurt]

Someone needs to make a digital audio warmer called, "Witch Tits".

i used to enjoy the naked dancing.
then, i joined a coven with two aunties and two cousins.
less fun now.

[gearwatcher]

I’ve had (what I thought was great) ITB mixes going. Sounded great in the car, phone tablets airpods etc etc. But then I run it through some outboard comps and eqs or master processor, and the mix gets an extra 5-10% boost in clarity, becomes more 3D, and overall the tone is much more balanced.

So in summary, “digital warm” is still somewhat cold, lacks a bit of life. But “analog warm” is like sitting by the fire place with a nice warm blanket, drinking hot cocoa.

So to the OP, you want analog warmth? Go get yourself some analog gear!

Why cant we all just agree to these facts and continue from there?

Because facts have this property that they can be proven scientifically. Say, in double blind A/B testing. Whereas

There is a Problem with 'Digital' mainly in the Upper End of the Frequency - spectrum, which can elegantly be solved by adding some Outboard - gear; lets say a Tegeler Creme or an SLL Fusion, or even cheaper, older Units, which will really help your Mixes and also not abuse the Ears of your Mastering - engineer. Call it Glue, 3D and clarity or just the last 10-15% you cannot achieve with Digital (only).

fails even basic logic and sanity checks.

[Unaspected]

Someone needs to make a digital audio warmer called, "Witch Tits".

i used to enjoy the naked dancing.
then, i joined a coven with two aunties and two cousins.
less fun now.

I'm sorry for your loss.

[vurt]

Someone needs to make a digital audio warmer called, "Witch Tits".

i used to enjoy the naked dancing.
then, i joined a coven with two aunties and two cousins.
less fun now.

I'm sorry for your loss.

tbh, since our kim bought new ones, she doesn't even wait for festivals n shit now

[Unaspected]

Someone needs to make a digital audio warmer called, "Witch Tits".

i used to enjoy the naked dancing.
then, i joined a coven with two aunties and two cousins.
less fun now.

I'm sorry for your loss.

tbh, since our kim bought new ones, she doesn't even wait for festivals n shit now

VFM.

[vurt]

she's gonna do me an injury though, as her cousin, my head does that automatic look anywhere but at kim, which with my neck is dangerous

[Unaspected]

she's gonna do me an injury though, as her cousin, my head does that automatic look anywhere but at kim, which with my neck is dangerous

Smoothly, somehow, I think we're back to aliasing frequencies.

[SoftSynthLover99]

I’ve had (what I thought was great) ITB mixes going. Sounded great in the car, phone tablets airpods etc etc. But then I run it through some outboard comps and eqs or master processor, and the mix gets an extra 5-10% boost in clarity, becomes more 3D, and overall the tone is much more balanced.

So in summary, “digital warm” is still somewhat cold, lacks a bit of life. But “analog warm” is like sitting by the fire place with a nice warm blanket, drinking hot cocoa.

So to the OP, you want analog warmth? Go get yourself some analog gear!

Why cant we all just agree to these facts and continue from there?

Because facts have this property that they can be proven scientifically. Say, in double blind A/B testing. Whereas

There is a Problem with 'Digital' mainly in the Upper End of the Frequency - spectrum, which can elegantly be solved by adding some Outboard - gear; lets say a Tegeler Creme or an SLL Fusion, or even cheaper, older Units, which will really help your Mixes and also not abuse the Ears of your Mastering - engineer. Call it Glue, 3D and clarity or just the last 10-15% you cannot achieve with Digital (only).

fails even basic logic and sanity checks.

Hey I did not write that second quote, that is from another user but somehow you put my username on it? Would appreciate you correcting that!

And blind A/B test are as unscientific as you can get. Everyone hears differently and blind A/B test have nothing to do with facts when it comes to analog vs digital.

[Ploki]

Digital is somehow good enough for medical use but not good enough for 4 drunk bastards with subpar guitarwork and shitty lyrics. C’est la vie

[rod_zero]

And blind A/B test are as unscientific as you can get. Everyone hears differently and blind A/B test have nothing to do with facts when it comes to analog vs digital.

Depends on how you do the A/B test and what is for, is the hypothesis about human perception of analog vs digital? then if it is well done it can establish relationships and maybe causality. But yeah it is not going to tell us much about the actual differences about analog vs digital.

[Ploki]

And blind A/B test are as unscientific as you can get. Everyone hears differently and blind A/B test have nothing to do with facts when it comes to analog vs digital.

Depends on how you do the A/B test and what is for, is the hypothesis about human perception of analog vs digital? then if it is well done it can establish relationships and maybe causality. But yeah it is not going to tell us much about the actual differences about analog vs digital.

human perception in general is pretty poor