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Uncle E wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 7:08 am FXpansion Cypher was in many ways a version of the Andromeda, as told to me by the man himself. When I manually copied the Andromeda patches over to it, it was the closest I've gotten in plugin form.
Did that also translate into Cypher 2? I don't remember the differences between the iterations atm.

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Ah, I meant to write Cypher 2.

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IvyBirds wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 1:37 am
kraster wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 11:04 pm Ah, right. The famous engineering definition:

"If removing the CPU stops it working, everything inside must be digital."

Excellent. We can now add fuel-injected engines, washing machines, CNC lathes and modern power stations to the growing list of digital synthesizers!
Cute strawman. Did you genuinely think that was a clever analogy, or are you just completely out of your depth when it comes to instrument architecture?

It’s wild that you think pointing out a few discrete analog components wins the argument. An isolated component is completely meaningless without the digital control system that orchestrates the entire circuit.

On Andromeda the oscillator circuit, the VCA circuit, ithe filter circuit, the envelope circuits, the modulation matrix system, and everything else it's doing ALL begin in the CPU. The CPU is just a massive collection of tiny transistors. About 2.9 million of them. Each one either has charge of electrons or doesn't. When it generates a value for something it sends electrons down a circuit to a DAC, that DAC takes that stream of electrons moving down the circuit and transforms them to another voltage, that voltage then goes down the circuit to another component called a VCO that transforms DC power into AC power. It uses the stream of electrons from the CPU.by way of the DAC to control this process. It's all part of the same circuit..All of those other components also work the same way and are controlled by streams of electrons flowing from the CPU

While geeking out over the Andromeda's architecture is fun and all, reality is the physical hardware is just a ticking clock of failing power supplies, dead custom ASICs, brittle screen resonators, and ghost-modding pots.

Remember that analog mojo you keep talking about about is literally just your failing power supply cooking those irreplaceable Wavefront chips to death

I'd rather use a plugin that sounds awesome and does for me everything I need, versus owning a paperweight that is 100% incapable of passing its own tuning routine

Making and playing music is just so much more fun than needing a soldering iron and a prayer to load a patch, and who needs to keep a supply of unobtainium 3MHz ceramic resonators on hand just to boot the damn thing
It is very simple;

is the actual audio being generated by and running thru an analog path (osc, filters, amp); analog synth. Or, a digitally controlled analog synth, when it's controller(s) are digital

is the actual audio being generated by chips instead of transistors (etc); digital synth. No matter what the rest of the config is. It can have analog filters, analog amp...it is still a digital synth. Or, a hybrid (many synths from the 80's and 90's are hybrids)

A6 is an digitally controlled analog synth. Period.

And why didn't anyone bother to emulate it (yet)? Who knows.....i don't.

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