KVR Audio

ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:56 am

edirol don't own it but that have a mutual co-operation thing going on

cakewalk get to use some roland roms for synths

and they design some computer front ends for hardware for edirol/roland

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:00 pm

so who will buy up fruity ??????

Bonita Bananas?

kp · Post by kp » Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:10 pm

Huge difference between Cakewalk and ROland and the other: theirs is a partnership, Roland do not own Cakewalk.

ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:26 pm

not yet - but how long ?

once every bit of yamaha digital kit ships with a free sequencer with a computer editor inside it you might just see roland taking a more direct interest in cakewalk in order to provide a competing product -mind you its one platform stance would probably be seen as a big drawback

Alfalfa · Post by **Alfalfa** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:25 pm

HanafiH · Post by **HanafiH** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:55 pm

mauseoleum wrote:
And I've spent seven years judging Steinberg
I'm sure that was a lot of fun ... You must be A Man With A Misson

No, but Santa's got a copy of Samplitude 7 for me.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 3:00 pm

HanafiH wrote: No, but Santa's got a copy of Samplitude 7 for me.

Is Samplitude programmed by elves?

Anakha · Post by **Anakha** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:34 pm

Found this bit interesting. Seems like they´re gonna make it less advanced and more "in general" as the quote below clearly states. I underlined the, IMO, dangerous bit... Cubase for dummies here we come!

Cut from Yammys webby:

With the acquisition of Steinberg, YAMAHA plans to further promote the Studio Connection initiative and realize seamless technical integration of hardware, such as synthesizers and digital mixers, and software. Another goal of the acquisition is to expand the market by making it easier for both general users and professionals alike to create music in a broad variety of genres.

So, this is the beginning of the auto-music era?

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:48 pm

Anakha wrote: dangerous bit... Cubase for dummies here we come!

i don't think Yamaha can be accused of dumbing down can they? they made the dx7 ffs

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:04 pm

What will happen to Cubasis?

HHaynes · Post by **HHaynes** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:14 pm

Anakha wrote:Found this bit interesting. Seems like they´re gonna make it less advanced and more "in general" as the quote below clearly states. I underlined the, IMO, dangerous bit... Cubase for dummies here we come! Cut from Yammys webby:

With the acquisition of Steinberg, YAMAHA plans to further promote the Studio Connection initiative and realize seamless technical integration of hardware, such as synthesizers and digital mixers, and software. Another goal of the acquisition is to expand the market by making it easier for both general users and professionals alike to create music in a broad variety of genres.
So, this is the beginning of the auto-music era?

Where have you been? Ever heard of Band-in-a-Box? or JMT Orchestrator?

Yamaha is doing the smart thing - they're going "vertical". That means bundling a Cubase sequencer with every piece of Yamaha audio hardware that they sell. With Studio Connections and "Total Recall" they get guaranteed integration and a relatively seamless user experience.

Usually when you get bundled software with a new sound card, it's a bunch of hodge-podge that may or may not work with what you have - then you are left to download a hotfix in order to see whether or not you should keep it on your machine or uninstall it. Now - mind you - this could still happen in an integrated Steinaha product release, but at least there's a fighting chance for things to go smoothly. So far, from the folks that are using their digital mixing consoles with Cubase SX3, the news is good.

macanoid · Post by **macanoid** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:01 pm

Since so-many software is k-ed and Yamaha makes it's sales from hardware I was thinking they may do something similar to what Digidesign does with pro-tools and M-Box: Release a piece of hardware you need to run Cubase. From a business point of view this makes sense to me.

ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:13 pm

macanoid wrote:Since so-many software is k-ed and Yamaha makes it's sales from hardware I was thinking they may do something similar to what Digidesign does with pro-tools and M-Box: Release a piece of hardware you need to run Cubase. From a business point of view this makes sense to me.

steinberg already do this - it's called a dongle

PS Cubase sx 3 has been out for 3 months and is NOT cracked

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:15 pm

Wow, the crackers must be getting bored of the whole thing.

ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:32 pm

sorry this is my current high horse

the following software has not been cracked - the latest halion, hypersonic, cubase, logic and all the yellow tools instruments

the link between all these bits of software - a dongle

Now that dongles are mini computers whose drivers are changed with every release of a peice of software it makes it very difficult for crackers to work out what goes on and even if they do you know it wont work after the next update - so yes i think they are giving up

Yamaha Buys Steinberg