KVR Audio

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:14 am

blurk wrote:Choose the tools that (a) you are productive in and (b) suit the music you are composing. There's room for both types of host.

HEY!! Don't try being reasonable with me damn it. There is no room for such considerations in a thread of this nature.

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:33 am

I think there is alot to be said about the annoying-ness of modular hosts.

I can only comment on EnergyXT because I don't own Bidule or any of the others, but I find that you go through the pain of creating a project - much like you would with something like SynthEdit. But once you've done it - it's a repeatable template.

Therefore, you can lose all the dicking around with cables etc.. from there.

Of course the problem with eXT is that the software is updated so rapidly that you have to rework things quite often.

Personally - although I like the power and freedom of modular hosts (or at least EnergyXT), I don't necessarily think that conceptually they're superior to Hostesses for making music.

Caleb

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:05 am

Ah, right--

I've made my own little error:

The conversation SHOULD be about the whole host, and I was just thinking of the modular routing of eXT for effects/synths, which is a piece of piss.

In that case, since we're talking holistically about hosts, Tracktion's gotta be the easiest host ever AND has modularity.

Greg

LarryAW · Post by **LarryAW** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:07 am

modular-challenged.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:39 pm

Lunch Money wrote: In that case, since we're talking holistically about hosts, Tracktion's gotta be the easiest host ever AND has modularity.

It's easy because it doesn't DO anything. As soon as it catches up in the feature department, it will be no more or less easy to use than any other host.

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:45 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
Lunch Money wrote: In that case, since we're talking holistically about hosts, Tracktion's gotta be the easiest host ever AND has modularity.
It's easy because it doesn't DO anything. As soon as it catches up in the feature department, it will be no more or less easy to use than any other host.

There speaks the voice of profound ignorance..

dystonia_ek · Post by **dystonia_ek** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:46 pm

Studios are modular - hosts should be too.

Hovmod · Post by **Hovmod** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:55 pm

dystonia_ek wrote:Studios are modular - hosts should be too.

Studios always have too few compressors and 1/4 of the cables crackle. Should that be replicated in hosts as well?

dystonia_ek · Post by **dystonia_ek** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:07 pm

Hovmod wrote:
dystonia_ek wrote:Studios are modular - hosts should be too.
Studios always have too few compressors and 1/4 of the cables crackle. Should that be replicated in hosts as well?

In my experience that hasn't been the case - maybe you're going to the wrong studios.

The two I use are both run by fanatical audiophile control freaks who go apoplectic at the mere idea of a crackly cable, and who seem to be doing OK in the compressor department.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:17 pm

platinumears wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:
Lunch Money wrote: In that case, since we're talking holistically about hosts, Tracktion's gotta be the easiest host ever AND has modularity.
It's easy because it doesn't DO anything. As soon as it catches up in the feature department, it will be no more or less easy to use than any other host.
There speaks the voice of profound ignorance..

OK, I couldn't figure out how to enable 16 tracks for recording in loop mode and then comp the multitrack stems from them in the audio editor with a batch tail trim/crossfade/close gaps.

Just 1 of about 400 other things that I couldn't figure out how to do in tracktion. Did I miss something that it can do?

Hovmod · Post by **Hovmod** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:22 pm

dystonia_ek wrote:
Hovmod wrote:
dystonia_ek wrote:Studios are modular - hosts should be too.
Studios always have too few compressors and 1/4 of the cables crackle. Should that be replicated in hosts as well?
In my experience that hasn't been the case - maybe you're going to the wrong studios. The two I use are both run by fanatical audiophile control freaks who go apoplectic at the mere idea of a crackly cable, and who seem to be doing OK in the compressor department.

The ones I've been going to have been run by students or potheads, so yeah - you might be right

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:24 pm

Hovmod wrote:students or potheads

What do you mean "or"? Aren't those words synonymous?

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:42 pm

platinumears wrote: There speaks the voice of profound ignorance..

hey plat...you there? I'm waiting to have my ignorance lifted? How do you do multi-take track comping and batch head/crossfade/tail editing of stems in Tracktion?

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:47 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote: hey plat...you there? I'm waiting to have my ignorance lifted? How do you do multi-take track comping and batch head/crossfade/tail editing of stems in Tracktion?

Loop recording is implemented in V.2. As for fading / cross-fading / multi-track recording, its all there, and more logically arranged than any other I've used. What couldn't you work out how to do exactly?

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:50 pm

platinumears wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote: hey plat...you there? I'm waiting to have my ignorance lifted? How do you do multi-take track comping and batch head/crossfade/tail editing of stems in Tracktion?
Loop recording is implemented in V.2. As for fading / cross-fading / multi-track recording, its all there, and more logically arranged than any other I've used. What couldn't you work out how to do exactly?

Oh, I didn't know Tracktion 2 was out yet. So no way I could check it.

I can only hope the new interface isn't the total eye sore T1 was. Can you link me to T2 demo?

How best to denigrate non-modular hosts?