Live 5 beta

[drez]

... Also, I believe Live5 allows you to freeze Rewire tracks so I'm guessing this will become even easier to deal with.

Sorry Braj, no can do. I'm beta'ing and it can't be done unfortunately.

[ericj23]

and does it still not like sample tank and kontakt ?

I haven't had any problems with Live 4 and Kontakt. What specfically is the issue?

on running the demo through my vsts it through up an error message about it - dunno really

[braj]

... Also, I believe Live5 allows you to freeze Rewire tracks so I'm guessing this will become even easier to deal with.

Sorry Braj, no can do. I'm beta'ing and it can't be done unfortunately.

D'oh! Ok, nevermind that one then. It's still no big deal.

BTW, I'm using Porte-Plume (first download link on that page)[url] which is a notepad-like little app to keep notes about my tunes within Live, and it is especially useful to not Rewire details. I wish there were a Mac equivalent.

[drez]

One more thing about using Reason and Live in combination: you have one consistent UI concept for all your synths. I have a second LCD monitor set up 'sideways' and at 768x1024, Reason's rack fits the screen perfectly, so I always have my synths in view. I still use VSTis, but Reason makes me feel like I have some sort of consistent 'hardware' set up.

100% agree. Dual Displays with Reason and Live are perfect. I keep all my Reason stuff in its own area and all my Live in the other. Keeps the clutter at a minimum.

[braj]

Not to mention I've never had Reason/Live crash on me. It's rock solid.

[RawTheory]

Not to mention I've never had Reason/Live crash on me. It's rock solid.

I second that

[headquest]

Not to mention I've never had Reason/Live crash on me. It's rock solid.

I second that

Third

[ericj23]

so how about the only being able to automate the first 128 parameters of a vst issue?

[WillieJenkins]

so how about the only being able to automate the first 128 parameters of a vst issue?

I think that is still an issue, but thats a difficult one to crack, because of how they've implemented the parameter tweaking.

I asked about this in Live4, and they said they were trying to come up with a way to not have that GUI down below explode if you had a ton of params. For example, RMX has 10000 params I think? if you opened that paramter tweaking box in live, it'd probably go crazy.

Thats a good point tho, maybe we should repost it in feature requests to try and bump it up the list of TO-DOs

[ericj23]

but can you automate all the parameters without opening the box - or can it just not be done ??

[dlt123]

i wonder meself, cause folks were talking so much about the quality of the sound and according to all accounts the new warping engine sounds and functions stuningly.

Now this is something I am very interested in. Has the sound quality as a whole, been improved, not just the Warp Engine, but all of Live4's sound quality? I felt that Live4 had a brittle or sharp sound and this just wasn't my ears.

I've recently purchased Samplitude Pro V8.2 and it's sound engine is stunning. It sounds much cleaner, refined and much more full to my ears than Live4 does.

Again, did Live5 improve their sound engine?

Note: This isn't a slam on Live4, but it just doesn't sound as good as Sam's sound engine does to my ears.

Thanks,
DennisT

are you sure you weren't clipping the channels/main out in live 4?

Your question makes me feel you haven't used Samplitude.

The answer is NO, it wasn't clipping. I've been using Live4 for awhile and I do love Live.

Hate to shake your world.

DennisT

nice how you assume i didn't checkout samplitude.... really, my personal experience in a good monitoring-environment and with non-tired ears is that the summing-engines of the big DAW's are really very close, so close it's not really possible to find consistent differences...... most of the time what you hear is either differences in headroom and/or gainstructure or panning-law .... ie louder sounds better.... or it's some overlooked processing going on....simply playing back a non-warped sample-loop in HQ setting in live 4 should give the same results as in samplitude..... make sure you correct for differences in level...

just my 2 cents of course, if you prefer the sound of samplitude then for all means use samplitude

Olaf

Sorry if I insulted you. Tell me, what were your impressions of Samplitude? I'm editing this since it sounds like I'm taunting you.

Seriously though, what did you think of Sam and what version did/do you use?

Personally, I am still going to update to Live5 when it comes out. I love Live's workflow.

DennisT

[dgkenney]

and does it still not like sample tank and kontakt ?

Live works fine with SampleTank 2 as well as Sonik Synth 2. Been using it for quite a
while now.


Dan

[jura]

Its all about comercials and money. From now they have you in theyre hands and youll pay and pay every year for such a beatifull update witch makes you happy. Welcome in wonderfull world of easy-creating intuitive tool Ableton Live 95.

[stale bread]

Headquest first I want to thank you for all the time you put into giving us a better overview I really appreciate it and I wanted to ask if you could clarify one thing, that frozen file temp folder: those files are rendered and can be copied to another folder, and you said you could still record clip play into the arrangement view of frozen clips, after they've been recorded into the arrangement view are they now separate audio files like in Live 4 to do with what you will, or are they still linked to the frozen clips of the session view?

[pHz]

hmmmnnn ...

live 4 ... 35%-37% CPU

live 5 (b2) ... 18% - 19% CPU

slainte rob