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scook · Post by **scook** » Sun May 10, 2020 2:47 am

Given the page specifically discusses using Surge as an effect, I don't think it refers to the VST2 zoom problem. Fortunately VST3 takes care of that complaint.

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Sun May 10, 2020 2:42 pm

Haven't tried Surge yet as an effect.

But as an instrument, the VST2 zoom actually works in Cakewalk by BandLab with a workaround. But as you said, not really necessary since the VST3 works without issues that I can tell.

The workaround for VST2 is to go down to the bottom of the zoom menu, and manually "Set default zoom to...". Then re-insert the synth. It will remember the new default zoom level. The other zoom level settings still do not work correctly when scaling the DAW plugin window in the VST2.

phazed · Post by **phazed** » Mon May 11, 2020 9:53 pm

Has anyone successfully used polyphonic aftertouch as a modulation source? I've tried this with a Launchpad Pro, Ableton 10.1 on Mac without any success. Channel aftertouch works flawlessly.

phazed · Post by **phazed** » Mon May 11, 2020 10:21 pm

I'm wondering if it's just Live filtering out the messages. Unfortunately I don't have any other VST that supports poly AT to countercheck.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue May 12, 2020 6:54 am

Live doesn't support Poly AT and it filters it out, yes.

PietW. · Post by **PietW.** » Wed May 13, 2020 3:57 pm

I think it's so great how Surge is developing here. In contrast to native instruments that are not willing to support their own wavetables. What has become of Surge is so fantastic that no one needs MassiveX. There is even a wavetable editor for surge. Does not cost anything.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat May 16, 2020 6:13 am

Massive X of course sounds entirely different than Surge. Better filters, better FX, better routing possibilities, and nobody ever said that it won't get user wavetables

Saying that "nobody needs MX" is a subjective generalization that is entirely incorrect

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Sat May 16, 2020 7:26 am

baconpaul wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 1:50 am And the changelog shows what’s already new in the nightly (and one of us updates it every 2 weeks or so as we march towards a release)

https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/changelog/

The nightlies right now are a wee bit rocky in a couple of spots, but are starting to get some of the new features intact. Always happy to have feedback on features and previews!

Has the parameter names of VST2 been updated to distinct the A-B scene?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat May 16, 2020 8:31 am

kinwie wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 7:26 am
baconpaul wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 1:50 am And the changelog shows what’s already new in the nightly (and one of us updates it every 2 weeks or so as we march towards a release)

https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/changelog/

The nightlies right now are a wee bit rocky in a couple of spots, but are starting to get some of the new features intact. Always happy to have feedback on features and previews!
Has the parameter names of VST2 been updated to distinct the A-B scene?

VST3 also has that problem.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat May 16, 2020 8:34 am

Mac installer still complains that it's an unidentified developer so I have to go into security to allow it

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat May 16, 2020 8:38 am

So is it fair to say the VST3 is the version to use now where possible, more stable, less bugs?

If so I'll update my Bitwig device panel for the VST3 instead.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat May 16, 2020 5:32 pm

Yes, VST3 is recommended to use, VST2 will likely not going to be provided as a download from version 1.7 onwards.

Automation parameters are still not updated to discern between scene A/B. Will happen in 1.7 I think.

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Sat May 16, 2020 7:19 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 5:32 pm Yes, VST3 is recommended to use, VST2 will likely not going to be provided as a download from version 1.7 onwards.

Automation parameters are still not updated to discern between scene A/B. Will happen in 1.7 I think.

Pleasee...make it happen before the vst2 deprecated

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat May 16, 2020 7:21 pm

Not my call!

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Sat May 16, 2020 8:06 pm

@baconpaul

Vember Audio Surge is now open-source