KVR Audio

Kumal · Post by **Kumal** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:45 pm

Open DAW as admin is required?

Fishy. Everything has a catch. So much hype, so much dissapointment.

psycha0s · Post by **psycha0s** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:46 pm

I'm literally shocked by the overall quality of the plugin. First, there's only a 32-bit Windows version. I see no significant issue to recompile it as a 64-bit version, other than maybe an additional work with SIMD instructions. Second, Oz took a month to prepare the release and during that period his site was down almost all the time. Paying for a good hosting shouldn't be an issue these days. Third, the installer doesn't allow to choose the destination directory. It's hard coded. Fourth, it requires administrator privileges O_o. Yes, I have to run my DAW with admin rights just to use this plugin. This is soooo wrong that I couldn't believe what I read at first. I don't trust an unsigned binary from the Internet, it's one huge security flaw. I hope issues will be fixed soon but right now it's totally unusable.

MrBauer · Post by **MrBauer** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:54 pm

There'll soon be first comments like "it's only $1 don't be too harsh with him and be thankful you got something without spending $200"

I opened the site and wanted to purchse it too but that already was a problem. After reading here I'm happy to not have bought it.

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:56 pm

Well, after all the hype, all the talk surrounding this plugin, it has to go down as (as far as I can recall) the biggest mess upon release of all time.

From the shop being broken (still) to the downloads constantly restarting, to the fact the thing simply doesn't work, and now I see the installers don't give options where to install. That's such a basic thing these days, and i'm simply amazed the dev didn't sort that out before release.

I think this 8 year old project started with the best intentions, for whatever reason was never actually finished properly in the 8 years (by the looks of the person releasing it, other things took priority) so instead of shelving or binning the whole thing, it was decided to release a broken , forgotten piece of software (If it truely was in development for 8 years, all the modules would have been updated along with SE and it would be native 64bit) extensive testing, etc, beta's you name it, it was a case of "what we do with this thing that was started 8 years ago, ignored for 7 more then rushed out in 6 months. So they decided to release it for a Euro with a mass of hype.

Depending on your stand point here, you could say that's fine, 1 Euro is nothing and support this , or you can do what I will be and saying its simply not worth the hassle, and i'd rather give a Euro towards a dev who actually gives a sh!t about his software and consumers.

starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:59 pm

phantom-one wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:46 pm I see no significant issue to recompile it as a 64-bit version, other than maybe an additional work with SIMD instructions.

Then you don't know much about SynthEdit. If one or more modules have been used that are only available in 32-bit, and the development of those ended many years ago, how do you think Ummet will be able to compile Genesis Pro as 64-bit?

Magnut · Post by **Magnut** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:02 pm

starflakeprj wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:59 pm
phantom-one wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:46 pm I see no significant issue to recompile it as a 64-bit version, other than maybe an additional work with SIMD instructions.
Then you don't know much about SynthEdit. If one or more modules have been used that are only available in 32-bit, and the development of those ended many years ago, how do you think Ummet will be able to compile Genesis Pro as 64-bit?

Website says they're working on a native 64bit version. So it definitely is possible if he would not have rushed to get this buggy beta released...

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:03 pm

It is has to be a mixed experiences... I see people with Cubase who can't get the 64 bit version loading and working. Others need to run their DAW with administrator rights. For me on Windows 7 Pro (for another week) it came up right away. I didn't install the 32 bit plugin and I didn't boot Cubase as administrator. Obviously there are some issues that need to be sorted.

I think the "shock" comes with the excessive hype. Anything short of outstanding execution across all levels is a let down. I thought for a buck ... lets give a chance. Expectations firmly in check, risk is low. Assessment so far... not bad (localized to my machine at least) ... needs to mature a bit. There are at least twenty good presets which makes it worth the time. Lets see where this goes. Extending good will to the developer and all that.

Digic · Post by **Digic** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:08 pm

Oh, yeah, i forgat to mention, the center window looks like it's been "borrowed" form Nexus 2

Sughosha · Post by **Sughosha** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:09 pm

I'm still not able to download it. In my browser it stops in between and if I retry it starts again from the beginning. In FDM it says "Connection timed out". Here too if I try to resume it starts from the beginning again with not more than 60 kb/s speed. Don't know how others have downloaded it and also started using it.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:13 pm

Seems like I'll let this synth mature a bit, before I grab it

psycha0s · Post by **psycha0s** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:15 pm

starflakeprj wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:59 pm If one or more modules have been used that are only available in 32-bit, and the development of those ended many years ago, how do you think Ummet will be able to compile Genesis Pro as 64-bit?

I had no idea he's using SynthEdit. TBH, I learned about Ummet existence a month ago on YouTube and was surprised that a musician made a virtual instrument. I just supposed he has programming skills.

claudedefaren · Post by **claudedefaren** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:21 pm

surreal · Post by **surreal** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:37 pm

Digic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:39 pm I've purchased this synth, downloaded 598 mb installer, and when i launched the installer (run as admin mode) first message was this

I clicked on "run anyway", and voila, installer started. As of now you can't choose install path for the plugin, it installs it in c:/program files (x86)/Steinberg/VstPlugins.
Opening a test project in Cakewalk by Bandlab is basicalily no go:

Reaper 5.99 /x64 opened with no admin mod:

Reaper 5.99 /x64 opened with admin mod finally opened the GUI:

Whole thing is still buggy, it takes cca 15 seconds to load, there are 128 presets when choosing from Browse button in the center display window, when clicking the arrows to change presets in the main window, preset selected before missing from the list when opened in Browse button, and so on..

Sound is good, but the whole experience as of now is meh.

I hope they will sort this bugs/problems soon.

See there is the main problem with the installation permissions thing.. I never install any vst under program filess. I always create a folder on my root of my drive for vsts and I never have an authorisation problem!

mladi · Post by **mladi** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:41 pm

claudedefaren wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:21 pm I wanted to see how the marketing for this played out when he converted a bunch of $1 buyers into $200 buyers.

carlosigls · Post by **carlosigls** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:42 pm

Disappointing, this is not released for sale even if the price is symbolic.