UVI Falcon - v4 = 2026 released - rumors, ads, praise, kindergarden, auto-sampling and off-topic inside!

[ThomasHelzle]

I suppose this is going to be a Standalone thing only before any DAW includes this

Can stand-alone be linked to DAW now with virtual midi cable like loopBe30? Does current stand-alone have more features than current vst?

After checking the MPE specs a bit is seems backward compatible with current MIDI so not a standalone thing only.

http://expressiveness.org/2015/04/24/mi ... ession-mpe

... and DAWs start to implement it for a while already, Tracktion has Seaboard XYZ compatibility since version 5, Cubase has it AFAIK with VST 3.5, Bitwig has a first note expression implementation that isn't fully MPE yet but on the way there and there are others as well.
Would do Falcon some good to implement it, more controllers supporting it come out all the time, recently the Seaboard Rise.

Cheers,

Tom

[Ingonator]

Finally decided to buy Falcon and also got the "Mello" Mellotron library for the voucher (did not have to pay additional money for Mello as this was slightly below the 100 $ of the voucher).

The licenses/activations for both are installed at my iLok 2 key (like with eLicenser i prefer this of the soft iLok) and so far the Falcon plugin and the Mello library seem to work nicely (currently att Windows 10 64-bit and Live 9.5 64-bit).

I have not played much with it yet so i am quite far from a "final conclusion". Anyway so far this looks quite promising.

Also saved a few of my own patches which so far far are edited factory patches (e.g. adding a filter or another oscillator). Doing my own patches from scratch will be done later, after checking the factory library.

The amount of included wavetables and single waveforms for the wavetable seems to be huge. Will check all those wavetables and the import feature when i start doing my own patches from scratch.
Besides lots of other options the combination of the wavetable oscillator and the Xpander filter alone seems to be very versatile. The option to use multiple wavetable oscillators at once makes this even better.


Not sure if i will buy many of the older UVI libraries as many of them seem to be very expensive (some close or more than the price of full featured synths and some even more expensive than Falcon itself). Maybe will check for soundbank sales in the future.

[maximoog]

Is there no undo function in falcon?

[SJ_Digriz]

Another feature request for the FM synth ..


Please allow the manual editing of the ratio value. The stepping seems to miss quit a few equal harmonic divisions. Unless I'm missing something it gets close, but there's no way to get it ON the division.

And, as previously stated at least 2 more Operators

[Ingonator]

Another feature request for the FM synth ..


Please allow the manual editing of the ratio value. The stepping seems to miss quit a few equal harmonic divisions. Unless I'm missing something it gets close, but there's no way to get it ON the division.

And, as previously stated at least 2 more Operators

You could double click the Ratio knob and enter the value manually via the keyboard.

Besides that you could fine tune the values when holding the Ctrl/Strg button while tweaking them.

Concerning more operators you could use multiple FM oscillators for a single layer which could lead to very complex results beyond hardware FM synths.

[EvilDragon]

Using multiple FM oscillators is not the same thing as using a proper 6-op structure, naturally.

[fmr]

Using multiple FM oscillators is not the same thing as using a proper 6-op structure, naturally.

Unless you have a kind of matrix, where you can define the "algorithm", of course
.

[SJ_Digriz]

Another feature request for the FM synth ..


Please allow the manual editing of the ratio value. The stepping seems to miss quit a few equal harmonic divisions. Unless I'm missing something it gets close, but there's no way to get it ON the division.

And, as previously stated at least 2 more Operators

You could double click the Ratio knob and enter the value manually via the keyboard.

Besides that you could fine tune the values when holding the Ctrl/Strg button while tweaking them.

Concerning more operators you could use multiple FM oscillators for a single layer which could lead to very complex results beyond hardware FM synths.

Ctrl doesn't do anything for me ... however double click the knob does what I need. Dang I clicked all over, I guess I didn't get towards the center of the knob.

[Ingonator]

Using multiple FM oscillators is not the same thing as using a proper 6-op structure, naturally.

As long as you need more than 3 modulators you are indeed.correct. If you need 3 or less modulators in Faclon you could create e.g. a patch with 6 carriers, each with up to 3 modulators which corresponds to 24 operators FM.
Personally i am not really able to properly program FM with more than 3 modulators for one carrier anyway...

[SJ_Digriz]

So, the FM oscillator is the primary one I've been messing with. It's pretty cool, but also basic. Being able to choose the waveform of the carrier and modulators would be nice. Also, only having 1 feedback modulator seems oddly restrictive.

But the Feature Requests are just that FRs. No criticism is intended. The FM oscillator is pretty neat when taken as a "whole" with the rest of the engine.

In regards to stacking FM Oscillators ... if there was a way to use the 2nd instance as a routable modulator on the first instance, then yes that would work. However, unless oscillator 2 can be an instance 1 modulator, it isn't providing additional operators that you can align with various carrier harmonics.

[SJ_Digriz]

Personally i am not really able to properly program FM with more than 3 modulators for one carrier anyway...

I would like to claim I'm a math genius that can crank those funky/crazy patches out in my sleep. But, the real answer lies in "leveraging" the huge existing FM patch world.

[Sampleconstruct]

So, the FM oscillator is the primary one I've been messing with. It's pretty cool, but also basic. Being able to choose the waveform of the carrier and modulators would be nice. Also, only having 1 feedback modulator seems oddly restrictive.

But the Feature Requests are just that FRs. No criticism is intended. The FM oscillator is pretty neat when taken as a "whole" with the rest of the engine.

In regards to stacking FM Oscillators ... if there was a way to use the 2nd instance as a routable modulator on the first instance, then yes that would work. However, unless oscillator 2 can be an instance 1 modulator, it isn't providing additional operators that you can align with various carrier harmonics.

Unfortunately the FM doesn't have an audio input, which is a missing feature, I would love to modulate FM with samples, anything really, Falcon does need audio inputs in the future (also for other things), but for 1.0 this wasn't possible.

[pinki]

My number one feature request in Mach Five 3 was to be able to save Keygroups and indeed Layers separately. Sadly Falcon is the same.

I can save oscillator presets which is fine (does the granular save with the sample..can't seem to get that to happen?) but not being able to save keygroups is a bummer. (.nkg is the equivalent in Kontakt...)

For example: I have an oscillator set up with all its fx and trigger options...how do I use this in other Programs!?

I hope someone will call me a dunderhead and show me what to do but I can't figure it out.

Apart from this inherited MF3 restriction, Falcon is a wonderful MF3 successor. And no more dongle!!! I asked Motu many times to allow disk authorisation and they were not interested.

PS there is a workaround ....copying and pasting layers/keygroups between parts but SOOO cumbersome!

[UltimateOutsider]

Not sure if i will buy many of the older UVI libraries as many of them seem to be very expensive (some close or more than the price of full featured synths and some even more expensive than Falcon itself). Maybe will check for soundbank sales in the future.

I believe I own about 90% of the UVI catalog now, and I don't think I've had to pay full price for a single title (many were half-off or even free in a few cases). They have substantial sales on individual titles pretty regularly but they're not as widely advertised/reblogged as, say, Native Instruments sales.

Their newer titles- anything released in at least the past 3 years- have custom user interfaces, and some of them are sophisticated, with sequencers and internal preset systems (similar to high-end commercial Kontakt instruments), in addition to having cool sounds.

The older titles in their catalog (and there are many of them) are just folder-based "sound libraries" with no custom UI. Some usable sounds in there for sure (BeatBox Anthology is still my single favorite commercial drum sample library, for example), but their newer releases have really been next-level.

[Ingonator]

So, the FM oscillator is the primary one I've been messing with. It's pretty cool, but also basic. Being able to choose the waveform of the carrier and modulators would be nice. Also, only having 1 feedback modulator seems oddly restrictive.

But the Feature Requests are just that FRs. No criticism is intended. The FM oscillator is pretty neat when taken as a "whole" with the rest of the engine.

In regards to stacking FM Oscillators ... if there was a way to use the 2nd instance as a routable modulator on the first instance, then yes that would work. However, unless oscillator 2 can be an instance 1 modulator, it isn't providing additional operators that you can align with various carrier harmonics.

Unfortunately the FM doesn't have an audio input, which is a missing feature, I would love to modulate FM with samples, anything really, Falcon does need audio inputs in the future (also for other things), but for 1.0 this wasn't possible.

What i am indeed missing in Falcon so far is doing audio rate modulation like cross modulation (alse between different sound sources like e.g. Analog and Sample Oscs), Osc Sync (besides taht included with the Analog Oscs that does not allow much control over the Synced oscillator), a Ring modulator (maybe possible as an effect) and also Filter FM.

The LFO currently has a maximum Frequency of 20 Hz. Would be graet to have an option to get this up to a range suitable for audio rate modulation.