KVR Audio

polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:43 am

This is my LV-426 track:

http://soundcloud.com/polyslax/escapist

Everything's pretty well soaking in it.

@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:01 pm

Alien is such a good movie. Not just a great science-fiction horror movie but just a really, really good movie. They really did a good job making that movie.

Some of my favorite scenes are in the beginning of the movie when they are just sitting around talking and stuff, like when they first get out of the cryo sleep chambers.

They really made those dialogue scenes seem natural, the way they all talk over each other and stuff, it feels like a real crew that has been working together for a long time, not just a cast of actors reading from scripts.

And then when they first venture out to check out the stranded alien spacecraft, the design of everything is amazing. The way the ship looks semi-organic, and the giant "Space Pilot" entombed in the pilot seat, with it's chest busted out (likely the original host for the chest-bursting aliens)... the movie is just too good.

@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:04 pm

Supposedly the new "Prometheus" movie goes into the origin of the "Space Pilots" race of aliens... Ridley Scott said that it is connected to the "Alien" universe but is not a direct prequel. I'm keeping my expectations low because movies nowadays just don't have the cerebral quality that they did in the 70's but maybe Ridley will surprise us.

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:11 pm

@midnight wrote:Supposedly the new "Prometheus" movie goes into the origin of the "Space Pilots" race of aliens... Ridley Scott said that it is connected to the "Alien" universe but is not a direct prequel. I'm keeping my expectations low because movies nowadays just don't have the cerebral quality that they did in the 70's but maybe Ridley will surprise us.

The previews of "Prometheus" look awesome. I think that the cerebral quality of "Alien" will be there, but the naturalism of the acting and dialogue won't be there. "Alien" was very much a movie of the 1970's, in that the actors had very informal lines to say, and delivered them in a fairly low key manner, until they all started dying. The dialogue up until about halfway through the movie isn't that far from a Robert Altman film set in space.

Anyway, back to The New England Patriots vs. ValhallaRoom, or ValhallaRoom vs. Pepsi, or wherever those threads have settled out.

Sean Costello

metalifuxx · Post by **metalifuxx** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:31 pm

I have not even been remotely interested in movies in the last 7 years and counting. Directors think CGI scenes will attract people over good acting and a plot/story. Avatar and The Dark Knight were the last new current movies I have seen period, and they were in the theater. I couldn't even tell you what has been in theaters for the past couple years. Avatar was my exception for going to see a movie for CGI alone, which was the main reason I saw it 3 times on IMAX 3D, and to no surprise the plot/story/acting was predictable, boring, and unoriginal. It was just really enjoyable to see while not being sober. IF Hollywood wants my money, they better do a 3D IMAX CGI'ed movie as good/better as Avatar, and they better have Hans Zimmer do the soundtrack and use Zebra/Diva while they're at it. The other exception was American Gangster, I guess I have a thing for drug/crime documentary type movies. Non-fiction documentary, music/concert, nature/animals, ski/hockey is the only tv movie media I care for. Watch less tv/movies, make more music and be more physically active.

Valhalla vs. Pepsi? Easy, Valhalla just tastes/looks better and has more caffeine

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:44 pm

VRoom vs ÜberMod, Zebras vs Camels, frogs vs. cows, Mercedes vs. Ferraris, men vs. women, children vs. adults, Reverb vs. Deverb, Curry vs. Stew - blablablablablabla....

paterpeter · Post by **paterpeter** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:52 pm

Slightly off-topic, but:

metalifuxx wrote:Directors think CGI scenes will attract people over good acting and a plot/story [...] IF Hollywood wants my money, they better do a 3D IMAX CGI'ed movie as good/better as Avatar, and they better have Hans Zimmer do the soundtrack and use Zebra/Diva while they're at it.

So instead by CGI you are attracted by the movie's CGA (computer generated audio). Wait - what about the "good acting and a plot/story"?

I don't judge for that. If I go to the cinema I want the movie to be great sounding and great looking, I want to have the whole audio-visual overload. I can watch flicks with good story on my crappy home TV.

That's that, back to topic

@midnight · Post by **@midnight** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:00 am

Sean, I was wondering if you could talk about the differences in the dark algorithms since there are so many at this point.

For example, the description of the original Dark Room algo says:

"A hybrid between the grungy early digital reverbs and the modern algorithms found in ValhallaRoom, with reduced high frequency content, noisy yet lush randomized modulation, a HUGE spatial image, echo density ranging from grungy to dense while retaining clarity, and tons of mojo."

Do the newer Nostromo/Narcissus/LV426/Sulaco have as much of the "mojo" going on as the original Dark Room? Do they have less or more of it?

Like basically on a bright to dark scale, where would you place the algorithms?

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:23 am

@midnight wrote:Sean, I was wondering if you could talk about the differences in the dark algorithms since there are so many at this point.

For example, the description of the original Dark Room algo says:

"A hybrid between the grungy early digital reverbs and the modern algorithms found in ValhallaRoom, with reduced high frequency content, noisy yet lush randomized modulation, a HUGE spatial image, echo density ranging from grungy to dense while retaining clarity, and tons of mojo."

Do the newer Nostromo/Narcissus/LV426/Sulaco have as much of the "mojo" going on as the original Dark Room? Do they have less or more of it?

Like basically on a bright to dark scale, where would you place the algorithms?

I'll have to look at the code to see which algorithms have the noisy modulation. Otherwise, the trend with the Aliens algorithms was to try to add as much mojo as possible.

Nostromo, Narcissus, and LV-426 have roughly similar architectures to Dark Room, but with a more "open" feedback routing. These are closer to Alesis and very early Lexicon algorithms, although they aren't that close all things considered. LV-426 is the densest, then Dark Room, then Narcissus (which is also kind of a small algorithm), and Nostromo is very open with a low initial echo density.

Sulaco is a smaller, darker version of Large Room, with more modulation compared to Dark Room. Not much in common with the other Aliens algorithms as far as architecture, but it sounds dark and spacey.

The other two dark algorithms are essentially dark versions of Large Chamber and Large Room.

Anyway, back to socializing in the meat world.

Sean Costello

antithesist · Post by **antithesist** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:37 am

Since Zimmer and CGI have come up, I have to say I liked the Inception score more than most of Hans' scores. The movie was pretty good, too. I think I read somewhere about Zimmer's mix engineer Alan Meyerson checking out VRoom. Isn't that also the guy with the stack of Bricastis? Maybe it was someone else on both counts.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:44 am

Alien was on DTV tonight so I recorded it. Haven't watched it in a while. This will make somewhere in the neighborhood of about 200 times I think? (just a best guess)

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:57 am

Sampleconstruct wrote:VRoom vs ÜberMod, Zebras vs Camels, frogs vs. cows, Mercedes vs. Ferraris, men vs. women, children vs. adults, Reverb vs. Deverb, Curry vs. Stew - blablablablablabla....

You forgot the greatest match of them all :

ValhallaRoom vs ValhallaRoom.

Hard match

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:36 am

antithesist wrote:Since Zimmer and CGI have come up, I have to say I liked the Inception score more than most of Hans' scores. The movie was pretty good, too. I think I read somewhere about Zimmer's mix engineer Alan Meyerson checking out VRoom. Isn't that also the guy with the stack of Bricastis? Maybe it was someone else on both counts.

Where did you read about this?

Sean Costello

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:56 am

Tp3 wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:VRoom vs ÜberMod, Zebras vs Camels, frogs vs. cows, Mercedes vs. Ferraris, men vs. women, children vs. adults, Reverb vs. Deverb, Curry vs. Stew - blablablablablabla....
You forgot the greatest match of them all :

ValhallaRoom vs ValhallaRoom.

Hard match

Uuuuh, dangerous! That would open Pandora's Box, VRoom would cannibalize itself, spatial anti-matter would be created and all Reverbs on this planet would suddenly sound equally good and bad, lush and thin, metallic and smooth, no more flame wars, no more KVR, no more nothing. So let's not start this fight...

antithesist · Post by **antithesist** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:57 am

Well, that's the problem. I don't remember and I may be mixing up the characters. Let's just consider it wrong until it's not. I did find some things about Meyerson's Bricastis. At least I got that part right. Does anyone know of any other film composers or score mixers that mentioned VRoom in a publication?

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