Kjaerhus MPL-1 Master Limiter is NOW AVAILABLE!

[nBeat]

But does it do tarnce?

It does, but in reverse.

[nBeat]

Hot (for those with a little respect left for there material)

Clipper (The step before ruining your music by sending it through a real clipper for that last 0.01dB).

... and that should show that Torben means Business.

[tq]

Torben, will there be an introductory price for the Mac version as well, or do we have to buy the Windows version now and be able to crossgrade later?! Thanks for the clarification, looking forward to buying your limiter...

[Torben]

There will be a intro discount for Mac when we release them. Those who want the version for Windows now and Mac later can buy now and get the crossgrade to Mac for free.

Torben

[BobYordan]

I tested both for half an hour and they had an excellent
bass respons.

Sad that there were no presets and that it is not possible to render with the demo.

It would have been nice to be able to look at how eg clippings are handled in a rendered file, before buying.

Cheers
Bob

Hi Bob! We did not do anything to prevent rendering in the demo version but it seems like some Hosts request data that are not available in the demo.

The MPL-1 wont clip but it will go right to the edge of the output level you have set. The precision of the look-ahead / attack makes it unnecessary to clip anything as there can simply be no overs.

Torben

Hi Torben

Okay, now I can understand the strange behavior while rendering.

So a major peak and and minor peak that happens to trigger the clipping preventing look-ahead get the same treatment?

Cheers
Bob

[Torben]

Hi Torben

Okay, now I can understand the strange behavior while rendering.

So a major peak and and minor peak that happens to trigger the clipping preventing look-ahead get the same treatment?

Cheers
Bob

No, it depends on the length of the peak and PDR settings but generally a transient of a few samples will be released very fast while longer lasting peaks (i.e. drum shots) will be released fast but a little slower than the transient spike. It is all a part of finding the best loudness vs. distortion relationship dynamically.

Torben

[Torben]

Presets posted before:

Hot (for those with a little respect left for there material)

Clipper (The step before ruining your music by sending it through a real clipper for that last 0.01dB).

And a new one:

Soft Limiting (good at soft material - I like this one)

Enjoy!

Torben

[Breeze]

Another great plugin, congrats! I'd just like to suggest that despite the fact that you plan on making a metering plugin, it would be really convenient to have Bob Katz's K-system settings available in the MPL-1:

http://www.digido.com/portal/pmodule_id ... page_id=59

RME has implemented these in their Digicheck and I find it extremely useful to standardize mastering output levels for different uses (movie, pop and broadcast).

Thanks!

Breeze

[Torben]

Another great plugin, congrats! I'd just like to suggest that despite the fact that you plan on making a metering plugin, it would be really convenient to have Bob Katz's K-system settings available in the MPL-1

Many have said so. I just don't like to implement it half way, so when we do it we will do it right and I do not think that is easy in the present design.

Thanks
Torben

[Kiwburger]

I guess you guys know that top mastering engineers prefer clipping there A/D converters rather than using limiting? Seriously. I can get you a recent Bob Katz quote for the unbelievers. They are using the real high end A/D converters (Lavry Gold, Prism etc), which are far superior to Apogee or budget stuff. Bob was very clear to explain that although these converters may have analog and digital limiters, these are disabled first. They are literally clipping the converters.

So if you want to mix ITB and compete with today's respected mastering engineers, you've got to consider clipping very seriously.

PS - before anyone rushes to deny this information, check your facts very carefully, because this is verifiable.

[Kingston]

Uhhhhm,

NO SHIT SHERLOCK!

Kiwburger, perhaps you haven't been reading this thread, or other similar ones since maybe early last year. It has been mentioned, what, 4 times even in this very thread.

And it's by no means a superior method to standard mastering limiter stock. It's *a* method. "the right tool for the job" very much applies.

[Kiwburger]

Post edited - not worth responding to that shit.

[Frippertronix]

Post edited - not worth responding to that shit.

That earlier post of yours was good point, though. Mastering engineers are a strange lot, though. They know all kinds of secret mojo we may never hope to understand.

[steffe]

Well,

I for one remember pretty well what Bob Katz also wrote about limiting (and yes, sure, most prefer not having to limit (hard)). he also mentioned the oversampled limiter for the MD3 Brickwall, because it does not cause intersample peaks. And he did not say that to make clear it has to been avoided.
I for one, not a mastering guy, prefer material that is not clipped in any ways. Pretty simple.

best

[Torben]

Kiwburger, from what I understand, some mastering engeneers clips the A/D in a few transients durring a whole song, after you processed the audio with analog equipment. It is in no way a general substitute for a mastering limiter.

Torben