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XDVarenkor · Post by **XDVarenkor** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:03 am

Still a deal breaker for me.

a.cla.dio · Post by **a.cla.dio** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:45 am

TruePianos will be PC-only?

Roel de Witt · Post by **Roel de Witt** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:01 am

Hi,

Initially Windows 2000/XP and newer only. But we'll soon start working on a Mac OS X version. I can't give an estimation on when that version will be done though.

Currently it's incompatible with Receptor.

As for windows, there are no known incompatible VSTi hosts.

a.cla.dio wrote:TruePianos will be PC-only?

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Roel de Witt · Post by **Roel de Witt** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:52 pm

Hi,

TruePianos is now released and the website is open at http://www.truepianos.com

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sttjelle · Post by **sttjelle** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:55 pm

Great! Just purchased

God bless!
-sttjelle

GeneralFuzz · Post by **GeneralFuzz** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:59 pm

OMG. Have been looking forward to this VST for a long time. Gonna give a test drive right now.

Qucifer · Post by **Qucifer** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:52 am

TruePianos is wonderful! I'll be purchasing my license shortly!

Brilliant job...

Chuck E. Jesus · Post by **Chuck E. Jesus** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:32 am

sounds like piano samples to me

shanecgriffo · Post by **shanecgriffo** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:43 am

sounds like piano samples to me

yeah ,but at least it doesnt take up 12Gigabytes

Landphil · Post by **Landphil** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:41 am

shanecgriffo wrote:
sounds like piano samples to me
yeah ,but at least it doesnt take up 12Gigabytes

This IS a big plus!
I think this piano is a step in the right direction, but after playing the demo for a while tonight, there's still a slight artificial sound to me...kinda like a wavetable synth. I realize piano sounds are extremely subjective.
I could use this for idea hashing, but not for the final recording, at least for a piano dominant piece.

All said, it is a great piece of programming...nice sympathetics on the top end. Just not the piano for my tastes.

rasmusklump · Post by **rasmusklump** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:10 am

If we would ever discontinue TruePianos we'll provide all customers either with an unprotected version of the product or provide them with an activation key that works on any machine.

...the same thing was statet from Superwave. And what do we have now ??

btw. I love True Pianos

stereomax · Post by **stereomax** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:26 am

I just did some quick comparisons (on headphones and monitor speakers):

- Truepianos Demo
- Pianoteq Demo
- Kontakt 2 with Steinway D factory sample set (various presets)

My impressions are:

- Truepianos sounds thin and unresponsive in comparison to both. There are especially no remarkable timbre differences between soft and loud notes (at least remarkable to me

).

- Pianoteq feels responsive. It's the only of the three that covers several characteristics of real pianos (for example: if you silently press down a chord, hold it, play a loud bass note and release this bass note you'll hear the "vibrations" of the strings of the chord). But single notes have - regardless of the chosen preset - a bell-like character, and perhaps they've overdone all these resonances: played with pedal down the sound tends to become a little bit muddy (perhaps it's possible to tame them with the right playing technique).

- Single notes of the sample set are by far the most realistic. But there's a clearly audible difference between velocity levels and compared to Pianoteq one "feels" the lack of resonances.

So my impression is that Pianoteq cannot fully replace samplesets at the moment but is a (sometimes even better) alternative depending on the piece played and the context. (And of course there are the other advantages of physical modelling: small memory footprint, fast loading times etc.) Truepianos seems to me only useable in a pop/simple jazz context - I'm not shure that there's a point buying it if one already owns a decent piano VSTi.

Please note that these are only my opinions based on a quick test without optimising settings of the VSTis involved or doing any other sophisticated stuff; I've simply played some classical and pop stuff along and tested a rather sophisticated classical MIDI file. And note that I'm not affiliated to any of the companies involved!

And of course there are other alternatives I've never played - the new VSL Boesendorfer for example ...

pethu · Post by **pethu** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:33 am

shanecgriffo wrote:
sounds like piano samples to me
yeah ,but at least it doesnt take up 12Gigabytes

And it loads/switches modules in SECONDS. Try that with a standard (modern) sample lib!

sttjelle · Post by **sttjelle** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:06 am

Yes, the software is incredible fast and it sounds great! The GUI itself is also tremendous (a great thanks to the designer).

Thanks,
God bless!
-sttjelle

gyohng · Post by **gyohng** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:19 pm

stereomax wrote:I just did some quick comparisons (on headphones and monitor speakers):
....
Please note that these are only my opinions based on a quick test without optimising settings of the VSTis involved or doing any other sophisticated stuff; I've simply played some classical and pop stuff along and tested a rather sophisticated classical MIDI file. And note that I'm not affiliated to any of the companies involved! And of course there are other alternatives I've never played - the new VSL Boesendorfer for example ...

Hello stereomax,

I have played new VSL Boesendorfer, since I have developed the engine for it - I work for VSL and do most of their software, and if you are into orchestral stuff - GO for it.

We also have most of other large piano libraries, including Ivory, NI, TheGrand, PMI, some proprietary unreleased ones and more.

Indeed, the idea of TruePianos is not to provide not a replacement for existing libraries, but an addition to them, for a fair price.

We welcome customers of other pianos, and if they feel they have spent too much for the previous pianos - we are willing to discuss resonable discounts with them. Because sometimes pressing budget naturally affects the opinion of an individual.

If for a player it is not obvious what is different about TruePianos during the few minutes of slamming the keys, then it is probably very hard to explain it in words. But thanks heaven, these are few

When me and Roel were ready with the initial playable version, I have shown my TruePianos to VSL people and offered my help. Two main decision-making people didn't see the benefit and said pretty much the same what you have said, and I ensured to do my best to provide them with the engine, which they can customize enough to fit their vision of a Piano into it.

For me the difference with TruePianos is quite obvious, since this is how I was seeing the piano. It's hard to imagine how many people we actually have involved in a quality assurance for it (including accomplished musicians and piano experts) during the last two years of development.

So I would say - good luck in finding your piano, and when you do - tell us which one is this.

George.

A new piano in town