FTFYHink wrote:why? it's a civic duty...hibidy wrote:fee fi foe fum, I smell a lock coming for this one
Poll: What is your favorite DAW?
- KVRAF
- 5110 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Stockholm, Sweden
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dirty oscillators dirty oscillators https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122600
- KVRAF
- 2739 posts since 4 Oct, 2006
hey, where's the Turtle Beach 56K?
Eins zwei drei vier funf sechs sieben acht
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
well maybe I better throw this out there while I can (not at you hibidy).hibidy wrote:FTFYHink wrote:why? it's a civic duty...hibidy wrote:fee fi foe fum, I smell a lock coming for this one
I would rather listen the one who has more passion about their craft, it's been my experience that they are the better craftsmen. There are many professionals with passion and their are those who work a day job so they can enjoy their passion. However there is a school of thought (which I suscribe to but do not expect everyone to) that making your passion your profession is a good way to lose your passion.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRian
- 1302 posts since 9 Oct, 2003 from California
Pro Tools, in all its configurations, has now added another user and is up to a total of 6.
This place gets more professional by the minute.
Dan
This place gets more professional by the minute.
Dan
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Those that can, do. Those that can't, argue about it on k-v-r
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
Sorry, not trying to be right. I think I missed your emphasis. Plus, to me, well known and professional tend to be synonymous. I just assumed that name dropping would be about those who are considered pros. Again, my apology if I seemed to be ignoring your point. Not intentional.Hink wrote:Eduardo, please stop trying to be right and see that I never disagreed with that. I am speaking about two words and profession is not one of them. I'm speaking about "well known" which I assumed you understood when you replied to my post about name dropping. I have never heard someone drop unknown names, "I know I'm right be Peter Sackenballs says so".eduardo_b wrote:I thought I did reply to it, but perhaps not directly enough.Hink wrote:eduardo, did you miss how I ended that post?I contend for every well known pro in every single profession there are many more unknowns that know as much or more. Many of those not well known professionals are in universities and schools all over the world teaching, they call them professors. Now I assume "professor" comes from "professional" and has nothing to do with well known professionals...could be just be me but I don't think "more well known" equals "knows more well"Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying do not listen to them, I'm not saying that they don't what they are talking about, in fact I think you should listen to their words. But I think the exact same consideration should be given to those who are not well known names as well, if you don't only you miss out
I tend in the other direction. Although there certainly are "experts" who do not earn their living or reputation professionally, the likelihood of getting quality information increases, in my opinion, when the information comes from those who pay the bills with their expertise. To me, the reliability of the information simply increases many-fold. Others have noted from time to time that someone who spends their days deeply involved with, say, mixing, is simply going to have more experience, solved more problems and learned more than someone who does it a few hours a week. I see no reason to disagree with this.
And, you're absolutely correct. This is a civil conversation, and I want it to remain that way.
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
that's okay eduardo...I don't mean this as a dig, but I have the same conversation with my 13 year old daughter all the time. Except her opinion is that Nick Jonas has to be a better guitar player than myself because he's a well known professional 
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
Well, that explains it.Hink wrote:that's okay eduardo...I don't mean this as a dig, but I have the same conversation with my 13 year old daughter all the time. Except her opinion is that Nick Jonas has to be a better guitar player than myself because he's a well known professional
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
well she has made it clear that instead of drawing (and she is talented) she's wants to focus on music. She has yet to grasp what all can be done right here, right now in her own house. Besides my DAW at her disposal she has a dual core athalon, a Roland XP-10 she can have, I bought her the Hello Kitty strat and she has my POD 2.0...a far cry from the ham radio amp and crap alamo guitar I started out with.eduardo_b wrote:Well, that explains it.Hink wrote:that's okay eduardo...I don't mean this as a dig, but I have the same conversation with my 13 year old daughter all the time. Except her opinion is that Nick Jonas has to be a better guitar player than myself because he's a well known professional
I think I'll get her baby Samp for ease and I gave her my old Edirol UA5 usb soundcard (no amp or monitors
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- addled muppet weed
- 111286 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
get her some decent guitar music before even bothering 
bit of sunn0))) or somesuch. or some sonic youth/hole if you want some female icons for the lass
bit of sunn0))) or somesuch. or some sonic youth/hole if you want some female icons for the lass
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
are you saying mine isn't good enoughvurt wrote:get her some decent guitar music before even bothering![]()
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
So let me ask you this. Are you going to teach her how to drive or let the Driver's Ed teacher do it? Maybe you should follow the same route and get her started with a teacher...just not you.Hink wrote:The only problem is I'm not a good teacher and she is not easy to teach but I want to teach her. It's like getting over a little hurdle we'll be off and running, very soon she would be teaching herself because that's how she is.
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
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Chuck E. Jesus Chuck E. Jesus https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=108246
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- 7301 posts since 23 May, 2006 from in between a cornfield and a river
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
no, I want to teach her...when I say she's hard to teach that comes from her teachers. However she is always going to be tiny, I've been wrestling with this but I have decided to start her off with open tunings instead of standard tuning. I also know most of the teachers in this area because I use to sell to a lot of them. There's a few that were very good but they're gone or in Boston, the ones around here overcharge and/or milk it. Lauren will also take longer to teach if you don't know her, it's really best that I teach her. Besides, she understands me and I understand her, I can communicate to her that which I find difficult to communicate to others.eduardo_b wrote:So let me ask you this. Are you going to teach her how to drive or let the Driver's Ed teacher do it? Maybe you should follow the same route and get her started with a teacher...just not you.Hink wrote:The only problem is I'm not a good teacher and she is not easy to teach but I want to teach her. It's like getting over a little hurdle we'll be off and running, very soon she would be teaching herself because that's how she is.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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Chuck E. Jesus Chuck E. Jesus https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=108246
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- 7301 posts since 23 May, 2006 from in between a cornfield and a river
