KVR Audio

jbuonacc · Post by **jbuonacc** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:43 pm

Lotuzia wrote:All comments welcomed

the joystick is broken.

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:45 pm

bailees7irish wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
breakmixer wrote: *Filter section doesn't have a 'filter' label like the osc, arp, lfo and envelope sections do...?
took me 20 seconds to find the filter freq knob....
wow...
sir, you really deserve a round of applause

I don't think Krim was being flash, 20 secs is quite a long time to find the filter section, I think he kept missing it too...

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:45 pm

breakmixer wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
breakmixer wrote: *Filter section doesn't have a 'filter' label like the osc, arp, lfo and envelope sections do...?
took me 20 seconds to find the filter freq knob....
It was right in front of me - but I kept missing it, may be the bright orange, took me quite a while to spot it, was on savihost/netbook scrolling up/down also...

definately needs labeling though.... for daft lads like me...

i was using the other skin...the filter section def needs more definition, and i think the 'radiactive' knobs dont help, the donty actually look like knobs

edit: using the orange skin its much more apparent, i actually think i prefer that skin, its not as bright as the screenshots from earlier.

edit2: i think the wavefrom shape looks too blurred when they are off (ie the backgrpound is balck and the shape is white) and so does some of the text.

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:47 pm

jbuonacc wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:All comments welcomed
the joystick is broken.

do you mean in the mod section, it cuts in half - only moving one side. just found that out...

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:48 pm

breakmixer wrote:
bailees7irish wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
breakmixer wrote: *Filter section doesn't have a 'filter' label like the osc, arp, lfo and envelope sections do...?
took me 20 seconds to find the filter freq knob....
wow...
sir, you really deserve a round of applause
I don't think Krim was being flash, 20 secs is quite a long time to find the filter section, I think he kept missing it too...

i assumed he was being sarcastic

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:52 pm

breakmixer wrote:
jbuonacc wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:All comments welcomed
the joystick is broken.
do you mean in the mod section, it cuts in half - only moving one side. just found that out...

No it moves both sides - it functions as both mod wheel and expression in one dimension (hence the split) and pitchbend in the other

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:53 pm

breakmixer wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
breakmixer wrote: *Filter section doesn't have a 'filter' label like the osc, arp, lfo and envelope sections do...?
took me 20 seconds to find the filter freq knob....
It was right in front of me - but I kept missing it, may be the bright orange, took me quite a while to spot it, was on savihost/netbook scrolling up/down also...

definately needs labeling though.... for daft lads like me...

Why not adding a label. There was one in the original design.

Labels like LP12/24/BP6/12/HP and frequency should say that the main filter is here, but it might be a good idea to add a label as well.

Dual concentric knobs, and especially flower design are new. But once you get the concept, very fast and intuitive to use ( and 20 seconds well its not so bad really ) Hopefully in some hours/days/weeks some of you will wonder how they could have lived without. This is -sadly

- my case.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:02 pm

Arrggghhh Here I sit at work unable to try the demo. Come on 2:30.............

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:03 pm

Lotuzia wrote:Why not adding a label. There was one in the original design.

Labels like LP12/24/BP6/12/HP and frequency should say that the main filter is here, but it might be a good idea to add a label as well.

Would be better for demoing/new users/newbies...

Lotuzia wrote:
Dual concentric knobs, and especially flower design are new. But once you get the concept, very fast and intuitive to use ( and 20 seconds well its not so bad really ) Hopefully in some hours/days/weeks some of you will wonder how they could have lived without. This is -sadly - my case.

Ok, just looked a bit glitchy - but not.

still a good synth, very good...

£55 till when?

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:04 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
breakmixer wrote:
jbuonacc wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:All comments welcomed
the joystick is broken.
do you mean in the mod section, it cuts in half - only moving one side. just found that out...
No it moves both sides - it functions as both mod wheel and expression in one dimension (hence the split) and pitchbend in the other

Thanks Stephen

Expression is the sum of : Breath Controler, Monophonic Aftertouch, Polyphonic Aftertouch ( Oxium receives and uses Polyphonic Aftertouch )

Why ? because this way, people who use a wind controler for example, will have the same modulations than those using a keyboard, without having to modify each patch.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:13 pm

Envelopes are not very quick, the idea seems to be more to have a analoge behaviour? Mono Legato with priority is included (great).
Filters are good, same with Unison implementation and stereo spread etc.
Preset management is ok, it remembers me a bit to Arturia

Waveform stacking is a interesting feature.

The delay sync times are bit hard to understand, I wished instead of a factor it would have also a display as note values like 1/8, 1/8d etc.

Interesting, easy to use synth so far. I would say there is nothing missing this time.

jbuonacc · Post by **jbuonacc** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:18 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
breakmixer wrote:
jbuonacc wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:All comments welcomed
the joystick is broken.
do you mean in the mod section, it cuts in half - only moving one side. just found that out...
No it moves both sides - it functions as both mod wheel and expression in one dimension (hence the split) and pitchbend in the other

i know how it works, but it's "broken". as breakmixer said, when you go to use it the "handle" graphic splits in half and it only moves to the right side. pretty odd, seeing as it's on two other Xils synths. you'd think they'd have it down by now.

unfortunately, i'm not sure how i feel about it just yet. i'll probably end up buying it either way just to support Xils Lab, but i'm not too excited about it. i'll spend some more time with it tonight. overall i like it, but i'm not sure it offers much for me over their other synths. sounds very nice though.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:25 pm

Lotuzia wrote: Why not adding a label. There was one in the original design.

Labels like LP12/24/BP6/12/HP and frequency should say that the main filter is here, but it might be a good idea to add a label as well.

ADSR should be obvious its an envelope, but you have labels for those

Lotuzia wrote: Dual concentric knobs, and especially flower design are new.

dual conc knobs have been around for years, even Bones uses them in his SE synths

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:26 pm

4damind wrote:Envelopes are not very quick, the idea seems to be more to have a analoge behaviour?

analogue are quick usually, isnt that what the general feeling is?

looking forward to giving this a good run thru at the w-end

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:34 pm

Is the Mouse-wheel support broken? (PC)
Btw. it's very CPU heavy also without Unison (IMO needs more resources than Diva).

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